College Bball Thread

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

2 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Considering that you have Penn State in your top 25, I think there is one more poster on here than you think that doesn't.

PSU is on a 5 game winning streak with a dominating win over Illinois and just beat Iowa. So they d been moving up. 

[RaceToTheTop]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

That isn't the reason. More of the fact I had them at 22, they got destroyed by Kansas, they moved out, Iowa State and Illinois moved ahead of them and Miami, Kansas State and Marquette joined the Top 25 from 23-25. 

61 voters in the AP poll.....not a single one has Penn State in their top 25.  Sorry you think it's a good take.

[RaceToTheTop]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

PSU is on a 5 game winning streak with a dominating win over Illinois and just beat Iowa. So they d been moving up. 

You don't consider Illinois or Iowa to be top 25 and the other 'impressive' wins were Canisius, Quinnipiac, and Delaware State.

[HoosierAloha]

8 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

61 voters in the AP poll.....not a single one has Penn State in their top 25.  Sorry you think it's a good take.

I believe they got some votes in the coaches poll?

[RaceToTheTop]

28 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Polls are mostly a snapshot of who the person voting feels is the 25 best teams at that point in time not necessarily the top 25 best resumes.   If someone had them low to begin with and they played terrible after that even against top level teams then for some people that would cause them to drop like some AP people have done to them just not enough of them to drop them out.      

IU is in the top 25 of 59 of 61 poll voters.  The two voters who don't have IU in the top 25 have what the poll tracker lists as a ton of 'extreme picks' -- picks that are 5 or more spots from the teams actual overall vote.  One of them has 9 of his 25 teams as extreme picks -- including the nugget that Charleston should be ranked 14th and 2 spots ahead of Gonzaga.  The other guy has 8 of his 25 teams as extreme picks.  

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

17 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

61 voters in the AP poll.....not a single one has Penn State in their top 25.  Sorry you think it's a good take.

Okay cool. 61 AP voters. Only two have IU out. Am I supposed to have the exact same opinion as everyone else? Does Penn State belong? Hell I don't know. Does Indiana? Maybe, maybe not. Does Illinois? Maybe. I don't know. Does Kentucky? Maybe. Why does it hurt your feelings that Indiana isn't in my poll? 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

IU is in the top 25 of 59 of 61 poll voters.  The two voters who don't have IU in the top 25 have what the poll tracker lists as a ton of 'extreme picks' -- picks that are 5 or more spots from the teams actual overall vote.  One of them has 9 of his 25 teams as extreme picks -- including the nugget that Charleston should be ranked 14th and 2 spots ahead of Gonzaga.  The other guy has 8 of his 25 teams as extreme picks.  

And your point is?

[RaceToTheTop]

9 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

I believe they got some votes in the coaches poll?

Yes, but no telling how many -- they had 11 points but the polltracker link only lists the media votes.  FWIW, 11 points would put them 37th in the coach's poll

[RaceToTheTop]

2 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

And your point is?

I said it in my first post.  There is no logical reason that someone would put Penn State ahead of Indiana in a poll.  And I have a feeling if Penn State had lost to Iowa, you would have simply found someone else to move ahead of Indiana.

[RaceToTheTop]

11 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Okay cool. 61 AP voters. Only two have IU out. Am I supposed to have the exact same opinion as everyone else? Does Penn State belong? Hell I don't know. Does Indiana? Maybe, maybe not. Does Illinois? Maybe. I don't know. Does Kentucky? Maybe. Why does it hurt your feelings that Indiana isn't in my poll? 

Get out of here with the 'why does it hurt your feelings' and 'cool story bro' crap.  Why are you so offended that someone critique your top 25?  Are you that thin skinned, precious?

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

7 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I said it in my first post.  There is no logical reason that someone would put Penn State ahead of Indiana in a poll.  And I have a feeling if Penn State had lost to Iowa, you would have simply found someone else to move ahead of Indiana.

Is there a logical reason to have IU in?

[RaceToTheTop]

Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Is there a logical reason to have IU in?

Deflection.

[Stuhoo]

2 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Is there a logical reason to have IU in?

10-3 with a win at Xavier (and a decent win at home against UNC) + no bad losses.

That Xavier win is probably one of the five best wins in the country so far this year.

[RaceToTheTop]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

10-3 with a win at Xavier (and a decent win at home against UNC) + no bad losses.

That Xavier win is probably one of the five best wins in the country so far this year.

This is the thing:  I know IU may go out and lay an egg at Iowa and I have no idea what they will do the rest of the year.  I just don't get the reasoning behind saying they aren't a top 25 team based on what has happened so far.

I do appreciate LCS' work no his top 25.  At the same time, I have no doubt that his measuring stick for IU is different than other teams.

[rcbowla]

Just read his polls or don't and move on. No need to attack the dude, this isn't Twitter. It's one guy's poll so I'm not sure why people care? All 61 AP voters and LCS have one thing in common and that is that at the end of the day none of their opinions matter. Winning is all that matters and the rest is conjecture.

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[IU Scott]

36 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

And your point is?

I think his point is that you don't know what you are talking about your rankings mean nothing

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

18 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

10-3 with a win at Xavier (and a decent win at home against UNC) + no bad losses.

That Xavier win is probably one of the five best wins in the country so far this year.

Sure. But again, this isn't seeding time for the tourney. And since that Xavier win, dominated at Rutgers so they moved down, dominated by Arizona and so they moved down. Destroyed by Kansas and they moved out. I'm not sure what's difficult about that to get. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

13 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

This is the thing:  I know IU may go out and lay an egg at Iowa and I have no idea what they will do the rest of the year.  I just don't get the reasoning behind saying they aren't a top 25 team based on what has happened so far.

I do appreciate LCS' work no his top 25.  At the same time, I have no doubt that his measuring stick for IU is different than other teams.

My measuring stick is the same. If you're 22nd in the polls and you go out and get absolutely throttled, you're moving out. Did the same with Kentucky who was 18th. Now if all the teams I was considering had lost, they would have stayed in. 

[RaceToTheTop]

4 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

My measuring stick is the same. If you're 22nd in the polls and you go out and get absolutely throttled, you're moving out. Did the same with Kentucky who was 18th. Now if all the teams I was considering had lost, they would have stayed in. 

The fact that you had IU 22nd in the polls prior to the Kansas game shows you don't have the same measuring stick.

[IU Scott]

2 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Sure. But again, this isn't seeding time for the tourney. And since that Xavier win, dominated at Rutgers so they moved down, dominated by Arizona and so they moved down. Destroyed by Kansas and they moved out. I'm not sure what's difficult about that to get. 

How about our win against Neb.  which seems to be getting better every week. Neb. took the #1 team in the country to OT before losing and have a couple of good wins lately