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3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

the NCAA or Bama suspends a kid when they have no knowledge that he's done anything wrong from a legal/team/NCAA rules standpoint, they are asking for a major legal problem.

They might want to update their team handbook if borderline accessory to murder isn’t in the realm of a discretionary suspension.  
 

We had kids suspended last year for some combination of curfew/weed (allegedly). I think the administration is gonna be within their rights to exercise some discipline for a guy who dropped his buddies glock off outside a night club that was used in a murder a few minutes later. 

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25 minutes ago, str8baller said:

They might want to update their team handbook if borderline accessory to murder isn’t in the realm of a discretionary suspension.  
 

We had kids suspended last year for some combination of curfew/weed (allegedly). I think the administration is gonna be within their rights to exercise some discipline for a guy who dropped his buddies glock off outside a night club that was used in a murder a few minutes later. 

There’s a difference:

Weed and curfew are both clear violations of written standards. Not saying there won’t be a very clear and obviously extremely more impactful and harmful violation here, but until more facts emerge…

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24 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

There’s a difference:

Weed and curfew are both clear violations of written standards. Not saying there won’t be a very clear and obviously extremely more impactful and harmful violation here, but until more facts emerge…

I’d have to see each handbook, but I doubt set curfew violations are any more of a written standard than don’t engage in criminal or otherwise unbecoming conduct.  
 

You’d almost assuredly be suspended for that in the NBA and they have contracts and collective bargaining. I think Arenas and Critterton were suspended for a half a season for bringing guns into the locker room.   
 

Coaches have a wide latitude in disciplinary matters, even at the division 1 level. 

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11 minutes ago, str8baller said:

I’d have to see each handbook, but I doubt set curfew violations are any more of a written standard than don’t engage in criminal or otherwise unbecoming conduct.  
 

You’d almost assuredly be suspended for that in the NBA and they have contracts and collective bargaining. I think Arenas and Critterton were suspended for a half a season for bringing guns into the locker room.   
 

Coaches have a wide latitude in disciplinary matters, even at the division 1 level. 

No allegation of criminal conduct against Miller…yet. If Miller’s gun was legal and registered? I’m not sure what Alabama’s gun laws are like (imagine they are pretty permissive) so if Miller had a legal gun and was allowed to give it someone else, they need evidence that Miller knew it was gonna be used for a crime. They may get there, but until then there may not be any violation of a law or standard.

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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

until then there may not be any violation of a law or standard.

 violation of the law isn’t necessary. The standard can simply be not promoting the ideals the university desires. Given they’re all over the ESPN ticker today and their coach is already walking back his comments, I think they qualify.   
 

If it helps to conceptualize, think of New Mexico State. They canceled their entire season. A majority of the players haven’t been charged or even implicated in anything. Yet, the innocent players/coaches will have no cause of action for being out of 1/3rd of season of basketball. It’s entirely within the discretion of the school to do so. 

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 violation of the law isn’t necessary. The standard can simply be not promoting the ideals the university desires. Given they’re all over the ESPN ticker today and their coach is already walking back his comments, I think they qualify.   
 
If it helps to conceptualize, think of New Mexico State. They canceled their entire season. A majority of the players haven’t been charged or even implicated in anything. Yet, the innocent players/coaches will have no cause of action for being out of 1/3rd of season of basketball. It’s entirely within the discretion of the school to do so. 
I assume he violated a law in having that weapon

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Sorry if this has been discussed here already. But Brandon Miller, big old yikes. Dude went from the guy I wanted the Pacers to take if they end up outside the top 2 picks. To don't even consier him

 

Nate Oats response was pretty horrible too

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