Tom Crean ...where is he?

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

And I'm still not!

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I was always told:  It's OK to have a sense of humor as long as you don't let yourself become a total joke!

 

And like you--- you know I like to joke and cut up too Bubble Knuts!

 

Sometimes there is a fine line between poking fun and personal attacks that we all cross! 

 

Honestly--I don't get the tanning bed thing either--- if it's true--- but----maybe his wife likes it!   ;)

 

I just can't stand some in our fanbase (not referring to you) ---that constantly make fun of coach without acknowledging all the good things he has done too!  Here's an idea---Let's turn our venom and sarcasm on our rivals instead!

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And to people taking offense to joking Crean posts. I used to rip on Bunbleknuts Bobby Knight for his admiringly huge fluffy uneven eye brows and his orgasmic faces when something unexpected happened. Sorry, I was raised by comedians. I never have once said, "Crean is a horrible coach" because honestly I don't think he is.


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Who has called Crean a "horrible" coach?

I've seen him called average, I've used the term mediocre; backed up by the 15 year sample that is his resume. I haven't seen horrible though.

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Some of the Crean criticisms are entirely fair game and truthful---but for those in the Fire Tom Crean Now Club and who can't give the guy any credit whatsoever----change your attitude or go root for Purdue!

 

The other 2 posters on the Purdue Basketball sites will be glad to have you!

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Back on topic---While Crean has been dealing with a family illness--where all has the IU staff been this week watching prospects?

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ZagsBlog said we were going to be seeing Rawle Alkins work out.

 

IUBB twitter mentioned the staff was going to Southport earlier in the week to see Brunk and Scruggs.

 

Anyone know if these visits occurred or where else we were at?

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sorry, any male that has a tanning bed in his house can not be taking seriously

Didn't you completely prove CampCrean's point about the hate not being about coaching?

[Dalton26 16,892]

Didn't you completely prove CampCrean's point about the hate not being about coaching?

He did, but CampCrean also negated his own point when he said people would be mad if it was Bobby Knight when there's a whole thread of Knight jokes.

Also on that note. Rebel you're in here saying it's wrong too but you're the one leading the charge in that thread.

At the end of the day they are just jokes and people need to stop being so damn sensitive.



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That probably is a very unlikely scenario. It's situations like we have here, where an established, clearly pro-Indiana member base is ripping Crean the same way a UK or Purdue fan base would rip him, that may actually concern a recruit. From their perspective, "Wow, IU fans don't even like Crean. Why would I want to waste my time playing for him?"
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Do you think either of your scenarios would even be relevant if he was winning? Crean has done everything right but win big. Or win consistently.When you yourself mention our 5 NC banners to lure recruits or otherwise serve your timely purpose, shouldn't he ultimately be judged by the same? Would you agree a national championship or at least a final four should have been accomplished in 2012 with 5 1000 point scorers and 2 lottery picks? 5 banners hang in Assembly Hall with much less talent, but I already know your answer of how devasting Syracuse's 2-3 zone was. Year 87 kicked the same zone's a$$ with a lot less talent and a better Syracuse team. So tell me #1Creanapologist which I named you, what's the difference?

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Do you think either of your scenarios would even be relevant if he was winning? Crean has done everything right but win big. Or win consistently.When you yourself mention our 5 NC banners to lure recruits or otherwise serve your timely purpose, shouldn't he ultimately be judged by the same? Would you agree a national championship or at least a final four should have been accomplished in 2012 with 5 1000 point scorers and 2 lottery picks? 5 banners hang in Assembly Hall with much less talent, but I already know your answer of how devasting Syracuse's 2-3 zone was. Year 87 kicked the same zone's a$$ with a lot less talent and a better Syracuse team. So tell me #1Creanapologist which I named you, what's the difference?

Do I think we should have won the championship in 2012 when we lost to UK in the Sweet 16? No. But we definitely should have won it in 2013. I didn't present multiple scenarios, but if you're asking if I believe Indiana fans would make fun of Crean's hair, and clapping, and tan as much if he won consistently, then no, I don't believe they would. But some people, like yourself, apparently hate everything about him, and at some point the criticism for his substations and in game adjustments gets old so they make the same lame jokes as other rival fan bases. I'm all for discrediting his coaching ability by discussing his coaching decisions, but others in the thread have chosen to discredit him based on his hair, tan and court side manner.

Side note, your condescending tone in every post makes you sound unintelligent and bitter.


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Do you think either of your scenarios would even be relevant if he was winning? Crean has done everything right but win big. Or win consistently.When you yourself mention our 5 NC banners to lure recruits or otherwise serve your timely purpose, shouldn't he ultimately be judged by the same? Would you agree a national championship or at least a final four should have been accomplished in 2012 with 5 1000 point scorers and 2 lottery picks? 5 banners hang in Assembly Hall with much less talent, but I already know your answer of how devasting Syracuse's 2-3 zone was. Year 87 kicked the same zone's a$$ with a lot less talent and a better Syracuse team. So tell me #1Creanapologist which I named you, what's the difference?

While 1987 might was probably Knights least talented championship squad I would beg to differ on the lot less talent statement.

 Garrett was a fantastic defensive player and rim protecter in the post.Cody was not.

Daryl Thomas was a rugged weakside  rebounder at the 4 .Something 2012 lacked.

Rickey Calloway was as good a slashing 3 as there was in the game.

Keith smart was a super athletic combo.

Joe Hillman was a big strong defensive guard.

And Alford,well you know.

 Throw in Steve Eyl who could play 3 positions off the bench along with Sloan , Minor, Meyer and Oliphant.

 2012 after Cody Vick and Yogi the athleticsm fell off dramatiaclly.Watford was a good shooter but slow defensivly.Same with Jordy along with being undersized. We had no reliable bench. Playing Yogi and Jordy together made for a midget backcourt.

 Cuse was big Long and athletic and Jordy was hurt.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is side by side I would take the 87 squad overall and I really think 2012 Cuse was better than we were from a athletic standpoint so I respectfully disagree.

  I agree the zone thing is a problem but Cody flashed to the center just like you should only to pass up shots and try to bull rush his way to the basket.Thats on him.Why that wasn't corrected should be on CTC.

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Do I think we should have won the championship in 2012 when we lost to UK in the Sweet 16? No. But we definitely should have won it in 2013. I didn't present multiple scenarios, but if you're asking if I believe Indiana fans would make fun of Crean's hair, and clapping, and tan as much if he won consistently, then no, I don't believe they would. But some people, like yourself, apparently hate everything about him, and at some point the criticism for his substations and in game adjustments gets old so they make the same lame jokes as other rival fan bases. I'm all for discrediting his coaching ability by discussing his coaching decisions, but others in the thread have chosen to discredit him based on his hair, tan and court side manner.
Side note, your condescending tone in every post makes you sound unintelligent and bitter.
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Great that we can agree that winning would solve a lot of the problems our fans have with Crean. From my numerous posts you would see that I don't hate everything about Crean, so you continue to be wrong about me. But neither he nor you can hide from his coaching decisions mid game. Those my friend would be what you call unintelligent.

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Great that we can agree that winning would solve a lot of the problems our fans have with Crean. From my numerous posts you would see that I don't hate everything about Crean, so you continue to be wrong about me. But neither he nor you can hide from his coaching decisions mid game. Those my friend would be what you call unintelligent.

Are referring to the inability to adjust mid game that I specifically mentioned in the quote you replied to?


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hoosierpap, on 11 Sept 2014 - 11:51 AM, said:

JM committed on the visit Sat and the staff moved to Shake. It may have gone unreported, I don't know, but staff met with Shake at school for workouts and, later, at home early this week. A little bit of assuming on this part but looks like Shake waited for JM to have his moment then announced he wouldn't be visiting Illinois. I think that may have been settled Tues.

So THAT's where in the world Tom Crean was!!   :D 

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hoosierpap, on 11 Sept 2014 - 11:51 AM, said:

It was not Crean on Tuesday I said staff lol


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I'm "experienced" enough to remember that IU fans made endless jokes about Bobby Knight during his time in Bloomington. The jokes were wide-ranging, They were about everything from his tacky trademark jackets ( which were rarely cleaned ) to his "anger management" problems. I doubt there was anything about Knight that wasn't made into a joke at some point. Knight was quick to make fun of himself as well. I don't understand the hyper-sensitivity about poking fun at Crean that some fans have.

[CampHoosier 3,697]

sorry, any male that has a tanning bed in his house can not be taking seriously

 

Sorry, any male that takes the time to judge another male on his appearance cannot be taken seriously. That's something chicks do. 

[coonhounds 9,133]

I'm "experienced" enough to remember that IU fans made endless jokes about Bobby Knight during his time in Bloomington. The jokes were wide-ranging, They were about everything from his tacky trademark jackets ( which were rarely cleaned ) to his "anger management" problems. I doubt there was anything about Knight that wasn't made into a joke at some point. Knight was quick to make fun of himself as well. I don't understand the hyper-sensitivity about poking fun at Crean that some fans have.

my family used to laugh at knight all the time also my favorite was his sweatshirt riding up mid gut in his later years that was always funny for some reason. The big difference is social media u say something and your bound to offend at least one person just the way it is

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I'm "experienced" enough to remember that IU fans made endless jokes about Bobby Knight during his time in Bloomington. The jokes were wide-ranging, They were about everything from his tacky trademark jackets ( which were rarely cleaned ) to his "anger management" problems. I doubt there was anything about Knight that wasn't made into a joke at some point. Knight was quick to make fun of himself as well. I don't understand the hyper-sensitivity about poking fun at Crean that some fans have.

The difference is that the Knight jokes were never used as justification for his removal. People actually have used the superficial criticisms of Crean in arguments for his firing.


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I'm "experienced" enough to remember that IU fans made endless jokes about Bobby Knight during his time in Bloomington. The jokes were wide-ranging, They were about everything from his tacky trademark jackets ( which were rarely cleaned ) to his "anger management" problems. I doubt there was anything about Knight that wasn't made into a joke at some point. Knight was quick to make fun of himself as well. I don't understand the hyper-sensitivity about poking fun at Crean that some fans have.

 

Because of context. People joking about Knight never made jokes with vitriol towards him being fired. Using "clappy" as a term for your coach is clearly lowering his standing as a coach to just an idiot on the sidelines. Purdue fans coined the term if that says anything. These aren't jokes, even though on the surface they appear to be, rather they are a continuous string of idiotic remarks to lower the pedestal of Crean's position as basketball coach at Indiana University. Maybe it's just me, but I don't care how much I didn't approve of my coach, I would never stoop to a level of calling him "clappy" or pointing to cutting down nets as a reason to try and embarrass the program. This is Indiana, we already have about 20 fanbases who want to demean everything we do.