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Who would you hire to replace CTC?

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I disliked Crean from the beginning not the right fit. He did a good job getting things cleaned up. But we are stuck for a few years because of Glass and that sucks. But to me there is only one coach that would be a perfect fit. Reasons: youth, from Indiana, has already proven himself, its his dream job, plus he was at the game when the chair got tossed. But its a long shot now. But I say go after him with alot of confidence, and all we got. Brad Stevens

All the others mentioned I wouldn't waist my time going after.

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Lansing and Manhattan coach: honestly don't know much about them but my same point stands. If you're buying out Crean for upwards of $5 million you better bring in a super star coach. Neither fits that bill


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BTW, welcome to Btown. And the buyout is 14 million. 

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Paulus: I will pull the experience card. Never been a head coach. I don't think IU is the place to learn how to be a head coach

Fife: yes he has been a head coach, was a good Hoosier but not worth the question mark of signing someone who's never own at the B1G or high major level.

Lansing and Manhattan coach: honestly don't know much about them but my same point stands. If you're buying out Crean for upwards of $5 million you better bring in a super star coach. Neither fits that bill


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I don't know if we'd be able to sign a super star coach, unless we put out a huge amount of money to hire them. And of course that is already going to be difficult because of Crean's massive buyout.

 

There are other issues with hiring someone seen as a super star coach. Money is going to be an issue. And from a pure basketball standpoint I don't know if we'd be seen as a superior program to what they are already. I'm not a fan of limiting the people we could hire as a coach either.

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Paulus: I will pull the experience card. Never been a head coach. I don't think IU is the place to learn how to be a head coach

Fife: yes he has been a head coach, was a good Hoosier but not worth the question mark of signing someone who's never own at the B1G or high major level.

Lansing and Manhattan coach: honestly don't know much about them but my same point stands. If you're buying out Crean for upwards of $5 million you better bring in a super star coach. Neither fits that bill


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Can't fault your logic one bit, man. 

 

I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Danny Manning is the guy I would be most interested in.

 

-Played under Larry Brown

-Coached under Bill Self

-Phenomenal coach of post players.

-As one of the greatest to ever play the college game, he would bring instant credibility with recruits.

-In only his second year as a head coach, he has Tulsa in the dance for the first time in a decade. He's not doing it with another coach's recruits either. His team is mostly sophomores that he brought in.

 

Laugh all you want. Talk about lack of a resume. I truly believe that there is a very great chance that Manning is one of the next great coaches.

You make a great case. 

 

 

I think my wish list in time is: 

Greg Marshall

Brad Stevens

Shaka Smart

Danny Manning

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I don't know if we'd be able to sign a super star coach, unless we put out a huge amount of money to hire them. And of course that is already going to be difficult because of Crean's massive buyout.

 

There are other issues with hiring someone seen as a super star coach. Money is going to be an issue. And from a pure basketball standpoint I don't know if we'd be seen as a superior program to what they are already. I'm not a fan of limiting the people we could hire as a coach either.

Agreed that right now IU just might not have the pull for a super star coach

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[quote name="KingPG21" post="48390" timestamp="1395000738"]I don't know if we'd be able to sign a super star coach, unless we put out a huge amount of money to hire them. And of course that is already going to be difficult because of Crean's massive buyout.

There are other issues with hiring someone seen as a super star coach. Money is going to be an issue. And from a pure basketball standpoint I don't know if we'd be seen as a superior program to what they are already. I'm not a fan of limiting the people we could hire as a coach either.[/quote]

Not a fan of limiting options either but if you're paying so much money to buy out a coach you better be damn confident the coach is the perfect fit. None of these guys match that at all and I'd go as far to say that if the coaching search ended with any of them as head coach it was a failure. Not to say those guys can't and won't succeed in their careers but for Indiana at this juncture it's not the right fit.



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If IU doesn't have the pull to get a super star coach right now then it never will again IMO.

I think the discussions surrounding up and coming coaches are funny because it is the ultimate cherry picking of stats and experience.

Someone could throw out Crean's entire resume under a different name and everyone would say yeah we should totally hire that guy!


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Shaka Smart would result in the same complaints we hear now about playing out of control and a lack of an offensive identity in the halfcourt

 

it's such a shame Tony Bennett turned us down before we offered the job to Crean. Life would be perfect right now

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Greg Paulus the assistant at Ohio State and former Duke point guard would be interesting. I think I would really like him if he were a bit more seasoned because I think one day he will make a great head coach. After a stint at Army he has quickly become Thad's right hand man on the bench. One day he will be great but at 27 I don't think Indiana is the place for him to learn on the job. 

 

good grief

 

Paulus is just like Kenny Johnson in that he is very lucky to have the job he currently has

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As the AD, given the circumstances; massive buyout, one year removed from a B1G conference title, donor money, etc., who would you put your job on the line for today?  Not a list of candidates or coaches that wouldn't leave their current jobs this year or next.  Please name a coach that you would hire. 

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good grief

 

Paulus is just like Kenny Johnson in that he is very lucky to have the job he currently has

KJ has a job here for a good reason, and if he loses it, somebody would snap him up pretty quick. Not sure he's much of a coach, but that's not the talent he sells.

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DO NOT HIRE MIKE WOODSON OR JOSH PASTNER!!! I currently live in Memphis and Pastner is the LAST guy IU needs. Brad Stevens and Bryce Drew are the only two guys I would go after. Maybe Shaka Smart but he's a bit of a big mouth for me. Nobody is bigger than IU. If Stevens wants the job you hire him today, if not then you wait for him and hire Bryce. Crean has reached his potential as a head coach at IU.

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[quote name="HoosierAloha" post="48403" timestamp="1395001777"]As the AD, given the circumstances; massive buyout, one year removed from a B1G conference title, donor money, etc., who would you put your job on the line for today? Not a list of candidates or coaches that wouldn't leave their current jobs this year or next. Please name a coach that you would hire. [/quote]

My guess: you won't get many answers because the list of realistic candidates that are worth the risk involved in that maneuver is extremely small.



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[quote name="HoosierAloha" post="48403" timestamp="1395001777"]As the AD, given the circumstances; massive buyout, one year removed from a B1G conference title, donor money, etc., who would you put your job on the line for today? Not a list of candidates or coaches that wouldn't leave their current jobs this year or next. Please name a coach that you would hire. [/quote] Bryce Drew or Brad Stevens.

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[quote name="Chizzo" post="48408" timestamp="1395002181"]Bryce Drew or Brad Stevens.

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Brad Stevens is not leaving the Celtics


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[quote name="Chizzo" post="48406" timestamp="1395001994"]DO NOT HIRE MIKE WOODSON OR JOSH PASTNER!!! I currently live in Memphis and Pastner is the LAST guy IU needs. Brad Stevens and Bryce Drew are the only two guys I would go after. Maybe Shaka Smart but he's a bit of a big mouth for me. Nobody is bigger than IU. If Stevens wants the job you hire him today, if not then you wait for him and hire Bryce. Crean has reached his potential as a head coach at IU.

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There are plenty of programs bigger than IU right now.

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Need to look at who the options would be when we were serious about getting a new coach. Crean would have to have a serious issue to be replaced before 2016. By then, maybe Stevens is ready to come back to college. There will be new hot prospects by then. Shaka Smart would be a good pick. Alford would not excite me, but I get the benefits of it being an IU guy. The next coach would have to be an established coach. Don't want the best assistant or the latest mid-major to make a tournament appearance with a veteran club of over achievers.

 

I would prefer Crean to get a good post player and make use of the shooters coming in. The key will be setting up a plan for the young players to work hard to make Oladipo-like improvement. This summer will be the key to how we improve next year. 

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