IU vs Northwestern Post-Game Thread

[BlueDevil 8,655]

I expected IU to lose a game or two that they are expected to win but not at Assembly Hall. Crean said every starting spot was up for grabs but I'll bet you a 20 that nothing changes.


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[JSHoosier 19,645]

I expected IU to lose a game or two that they are expected to win but not at Assembly Hall. Crean said every starting spot was up for grabs but I'll bet you a 20 that nothing changes.


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Safe bet.  It took a knee injury to remove Verdell from the starting lineup.

[Hovadipo 53,167]

Safe bet. It took a knee injury to remove Verdell from the starting lineup.

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[KB0 827]

That sucked. 

 

I kind of like the Collins hire by Northwestern.  He might be the rare Coach K assistant that doesn't bomb out! 

 

Puts us back at -1.  Two home losses versus one road win.  I was really hoping we would win out at home.  Blech.

Uhhmm, what? Amaker is doing better than anyone could have expected at Harvard, Brey does well at ND, and Collins is going to do well at NW. Dawkins is a .500 coach and he's had injury problems. So, I don't really see your point.

[All_Hoosiers 873]

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Yikes, didn't realize Crean is basically the worst coach ever. 

[bronkonagurski 894]

Uhhmm, what? Amaker is doing better than anyone could have expected at Harvard, Brey does well at ND, and Collins is going to do well at NW. Dawkins is a .500 coach and he's had injury problems. So, I don't really see your point.

 

Amaker was a failure at Michigan.  He has done a nice job at Harvard, good for him.  Just shows me that he was in over his head at a bigger program.  Quinn Snyder says hello.  Brey is just kind of whatever.  Notre Dame is never a serious threat to do anything.  Jeff Capel had a good year or two with Blake Griffin then bombed and had to return to Coach K's nest at Duke.  Just not that impressed by the Coach K coaching tree.  But like I said, I think Collins will do very well. 

[BlueDevil 8,655]

[quote name="bronkonagurski" post="31124" timestamp="1390179076"]Amaker was a failure at Michigan. He has done a nice job at Harvard, good for him. Just shows me that he was in over his head at a bigger program. Quinn Snyder says hello. Brey is just kind of whatever. Notre Dame is never a serious threat to do anything. Jeff Capel had a good year or two with Blake Griffin then bombed and had to return to Coach K's nest at Duke. Just not that impressed by the Coach K coaching tree. But like I said, I think Collins will do very well. [/quote]

I'm a huge Duke guy and I have to agree with you. I don't think Brey is doing a bad job but just has done well enough to be a consistent mid tier team. I can't wait to see what Collins does when he has a team full of his recruits. Hated to see him leave Duke but excited for Northwestern as I believe he is the guy that will take them dancing for the first time.


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[KB0 827]

Amaker was a failure at Michigan.  He has done a nice job at Harvard, good for him.  Just shows me that he was in over his head at a bigger program.  Quinn Snyder says hello.  Brey is just kind of whatever.  Notre Dame is never a serious threat to do anything.  Jeff Capel had a good year or two with Blake Griffin then bombed and had to return to Coach K's nest at Duke.  Just not that impressed by the Coach K coaching tree.  But like I said, I think Collins will do very well.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Amaker inherit a terrible situation at Michigan with scholarship reductions and more? Snyder did take his team to the tournament four straight years and to the EE.

[JSHoosier 19,645]

Saw this posted on another site.

 

1. Tom Crean ‏@TomCrean   9m

   A lot of people like to see a team as a Box. They want things to connect and fit easily. The Coach has to see it as a puzzle. Put it 2gether

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2. JB ‏@WeertzBent   6m

   @TomCrean you put that northwestern puzzle together like a blind man.

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3. Could be Wyatt ‏@WyXHarmon   6m

   @TomCrean have you even opened the box yet?

 

This fan base is embarrassing sometimes, but that last line made me laugh.

[bronkonagurski 894]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Amaker inherit a terrible situation at Michigan with scholarship reductions and more? Snyder did take his team to the tournament four straight years and to the EE.

 

Possibly but I just don't recall being impressed with the way Tommy's teams at U of M played.  Snyder had some early success and he also had some NCAA heat on him shortly thereafter from what I recall.  Dude pretty much abandoned the college scene to be a career NBA assistant after that.  So I have a hard time saying he was a success as a college coach. 

 

The main point of what I posted was that I am impressed by Collins so far.  Whether others agree on the overall body of work of Coach K assistants, that wasn't the focal point of my post.  Agree to disagree I guess? 

[bronkonagurski 894]

Can't find that exchange anywhere on his Twitter page, must have deleted the Tweet.

 

Saw this posted on another site.

 

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   @TomCrean you put that northwestern puzzle together like a blind man.

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   @TomCrean have you even opened the box yet?

 

This fan base is embarrassing sometimes, but that last line made me laugh.

[JSHoosier 19,645]

Can't find that exchange anywhere on his Twitter page, must have deleted the Tweet.

After that exchange, I'd imagine he did.

[BlueDevil 8,655]

He is always pumping the fans BS about how the team needs them to be loud. Put a damn product out there to get them loud.


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[All_Hoosiers 873]

Sure, Indiana isn't a bad team, but it's made up of five freshmen, most of whom aren't good enough to play Big Ten basketball this their first year, a very disappointing sophomore class, a junior (redshirt sophomore) who may not exactly be a Big Ten caliber player, a senior transfer, and a senior that was a sixth man the last two seasons for for a reason. Simply put, the team is not very good, and the make up of the squad obviously falls on the coach. He's a good recruiter, nothing more.

His coaching in general has been questionable at times, and next year will be the year we need really judge and examine him, as his team should be much, much better next season (provided Noah Vonleh stays.)



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[All_Hoosiers 873]

Austin is a Sophmore (red shirt)  Just FYI

 

I know. I just went ahead and referred to him as a junior though.

[IU Hoosier41 14,465]

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No you are completely right. I just think he has sat long enough and deserves another shot. What makes you believe that he didn't deserve a shot based on the way the team played?


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This is how I know he was unofficially suspended. If he weren't, Crean would have played him that game 100%.

[OliviaPope40 6,304]

MSU is going to be a must win game for us and we are to have to play well for us to have a fighting chance.

[FortWayneHoosier 5,860]

Saw this posted on another site.

 

1. Tom Crean ‏@TomCrean   9m

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   @TomCrean you put that northwestern puzzle together like a blind man.

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   @TomCrean have you even opened the box yet?

 

This fan base is embarrassing sometimes, but that last line made me laugh.

hahaha wow he got called out quick lol!

[incrediboy 919]

Been considering this for a couple of days. I think Jeremy could have added something Saturday. We needed one more shooter out there to take away the pressure from Yogi, Gordon and Will. I think Jeremy could have made a positive difference, and Saturday was the time Crean should have pulled him from the mothballs of the pine. We were simply one shooter short of making Northwestern's defense ineffective.

 

There may be a higher purpose to Jeremy continuing to sit, and I don't claim to know more than Coach Crean about the best way to handle it. I'm just saying I think Saturday we needed one more shooter on the floor, and Hollowell can shoot. Had I been in charge, I would have run him out there to see if he could have made a difference.

[HoosierReb01 7,511]

Been considering this for a couple of days. I think Jeremy could have added something Saturday. We needed one more shooter out there to take away the pressure from Yogi, Gordon and Will. I think Jeremy could have made a positive difference, and Saturday was the time Crean should have pulled him from the mothballs of the pine. We were simply one shooter short of making Northwestern's defense ineffective.

 

There may be a higher purpose to Jeremy continuing to sit, and I don't claim to know more than Coach Crean about the best way to handle it. I'm just saying I think Saturday we needed one more shooter on the floor, and Hollowell can shoot. Had I been in charge, I would have run him out there to see if he could have made a difference.

I would just have to say on this, that none of us really know why JH is sitting at this time. CTC has seen it fit to set him on the bench, and he seems to feel that is entirely justified. If CTC ran him into the game against his convictions, just to get  a win, I would definitely lose a lot of respect for him. A college coach is a teacher first, and one of his (or hers) primary responsibilities is to teach these young athletes and prepare them for the choices and decisions that they will have to make in life. It would have been a serious disservice to JH for CTC to play him just to get a win. On the other hand, we should have never been in a position in that game where JH would have made that big of a difference.