Fire Darian DeVries? Lol

[Home Jersey]

Just now, Brass Cannon said:

People said woody was a disaster before the ink was dry on his contract they were as right then as they were 4 years later. 

And that solved what, exactly? Other than winding up a bunch of dudes on the Internet, myself included. Lol 

[Uspshoosier]

8 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

We are now after the recovery of the last 10 days.  But when this topic was made we felt to be in very different spots 

Got it.  The topic being made with less then half season to be played.    Maybe wait until more pieces of the puzzle were put in until posting a fire coach X before he coached his 10th conference game.   Either way fans can post and cope with the success or non success of the program they are invested in however they want.  

[Uspshoosier]

5 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

People said woody was a disaster before the ink was dry on his contract they were as right then as they were 4 years later. 

You mean people said it was going to be a disaster hiring  a coach with 0 college basketball experience? Water is wet.  IU wasn’t serious about basketball when they hired him as coach and everyone included their own fans knew it

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Got it.  The topic being made with less then half season to be played.    Maybe wait until more pieces of the puzzle were put in until posting a fire coach X before he coached his 10th conference game.   Either way fans can post and cope with with the success or non success of the program they are invested in however they want.  

Exactly quick reaction for sure but there had nothing of merit yet for the season. The DeVries era had been all flow and no ebb. 
 

Hes got some wins and some recruits but he still has a big task. This offseason needs to go better. We can’t go into next season with this many missing pieces 

[Brass Cannon]

4 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

And that solved what, exactly? Other than winding up a bunch of dudes on the Internet, myself included. Lol 

It doesn’t solve anything. But the fact is that whether or not somebody is going to be successful is apparent well before they win or get fired. 

[Home Jersey]

2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

It doesn’t solve anything. But the fact is that whether or not somebody is going to be successful is apparent well before they win or get fired. 

Right maybe just not before they've coached 20 games at a school :)

[Stuhoo]

8 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

People said woody was a disaster before the ink was dry on his contract they were as right then as they were 4 years later. 

They were guessing back when the ink was barely dry on his contract. Turns out they were right, but they were guessing.

And after Woody years one and two, almost everyone had backed off and considered initial returns to be positive.

So we’re guessing about Devries being a success currently, just like we were two weeks ago about him being a failure.

Patience and perspective is a better mindset methinks.

[Uspshoosier]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

Exactly quick reaction for sure but there had nothing of merit yet for the season. The DeVries era had been all flow and no ebb. 
 

Hes got some wins and some recruits but he still has a big task. This offseason needs to go better. We can’t go into next season with this many missing pieces 

Not his fault Marquette and Kansas St are ended up being crappy games.   Any other year 2 power 5 non conference wins would result in 2 quality wins.   Bad luck for IU that they ended up being less impactful.  Even with this flawed roster they signs were there they could compete like they are now.   16 point lead in the second half on a projected 2 seed and had a 7 point halftime lead at another projected tourney team on the road.  Building blocks.    Just a remainder he took over a program that fired their last 2 coaches for on the court results and a program that has been to the tourney 2 of the last 8 years that hasn’t had back to back conferences winning records since I can’t even remember.   Probably was going to take him longer than 16 games to wash away the stink of the last 9 years.   Agree next year he needs to do better in roster construction.   Even if he was 17-3 this year he was still going to have a big task in changing the narrative of the IU program.   He is still going to have to face adversity this after he loses a game the fans think he shouldn’t(it’s going to happen) 

[Uspshoosier]

Speaking of that Kansas St win they are down 29 at home to Iowa St 

[BGleas]

59 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Just this year  Tennessee blew a 17 point lead to Kentucky at home, Virginia blew a 16 point lead at home to North Carolina with a first year head coach.   It’s part of college basketball and especially now days with the importance of the 3 point shot.   Double digit leads evaporate quickly nowadays 

There were like 3 games on Wednesday or Thursday night, can't remember, where teams blew 15+ point leads. Happens almost every night in college basketball. 

[IUHoosier5]

Even though a big lead was built and subsequently erased against Nebraska, it was encouraging to see them get that lead in the first place. They also got up double-digits against Purdue and UCLA on the road. Now the next step in their growth is sustaining those leads. 
 

I must admit, I was very low on the team’s tournament chances after that losing streak. For them to respond how they have takes gusto, so the coaches and players deserve a lot of credit. 
 

Now I am in the camp that says their best basketball is still ahead of them this season. 
 

Hopefully we get a couple big time games for Wilkerson, Dorn, and Devries all at the same time. I’m patiently waiting for that to happen - hopefully against Illinois, Purdue and/or Michigan State. 

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

Probably not but it’s part of it.  I’ve seen better programs then IUs basketball program right now blow 16 + leads at home and lose and some get blowed out in their quality non con games.   It happens.   

Right, but the question is how often.  Sure, any given game can go south, and you strap up and play the next one.  But that isn't IU basketball of the recent past.  It hasn't been ebbs and flows.  It has been tsunamis of bad, followed by some good, just to us to the edge of the tournament.  

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said:

Agreed. But with a flawed roster and thru 19 games nothing really impressive of note it’s understandable that fans are going to be frustrated.  
 

Michigan, Iowa and Virginia are all teams who have had less painful coaching transitions in the last 15 months and a large part of our fanbase wanted a few of those coaches there is gonna be discontent. 

Flawed roster or not, we should have been able to beat Minny and Iowa.  We should have been able to close out Nebraska and steal a win from a team way better than us.  We stole one from Purdue, but then almost choked it up at UCLA.   

But in any event, we seem to have it rolling at the moment.  Take care of USC and get home and finish strong.  

[Uspshoosier]

3 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Right, but the question is how often

More than people would think but most people on here only care about IU results which is understandable.  

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said:

We did not hav a bad 2 week stretch. We had no good wins till Purdue we were on the wrong side of the bubble until we beat them. If you have to misrepresent where we were as a program I don’t think whatever point you are trying to make has any merit. 
 

We constructed a flawed roster and the. Proceeded to not win.  Obviously if you start winning things are different.  

I guess I am from back in the day when IU didn't have "bad 2-week stretches."  Sure a game here or there -- even getting bounced from the tournament first game.  But long stretches of bad, nope.  

[Uspshoosier]

2 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

we should have been able to beat Minny and Iowa.  We should have been able to close out Nebraska and steal a win from a team way better than us

Should have but that’s not how it works.  Plenty of teams besides IU should of have won games but they didn’t it’s just more frustrating for people on here when IU does it because of the past 9 years 

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, Brass Cannon said:

Exactly quick reaction for sure but there had nothing of merit yet for the season. The DeVries era had been all flow and no ebb. 
 

Hes got some wins and some recruits but he still has a big task. This offseason needs to go better. We can’t go into next season with this many missing pieces 

My opinion is much of next season hinges on us getting into the tournament this season.  That's an upward trajectory you can sell to recruits -- portal and HS.  If we fail to do that, things become A LOT harder.  

[Uspshoosier]

2 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

I guess I am from back in the day when IU didn't have "bad 2-week stretches."  Sure a game here or there -- even getting bounced from the tournament first game.  But long stretches of bad, nope.  

Way back in the day.   The  team and program you are invested in now hasn’t finished the B1G regular season with back to back winning conference records since the Crean years.  

[Pagoda]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Way back in the day.   The  team and program you are invested in now hasn’t finished the B1G regular season with back to back winning conference records since the Crean years.  

And Tom only achieved that one time.  Oooof.

[Uspshoosier]

1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

My opinion is much of next season hinges on us getting into the tournament this season.  That's an upward trajectory you can sell to recruits -- portal and HS.  If we fail to do that, things become A LOT harder.  

 It really all depends on the recruit and what they want.   Wilkerson chose IU over Kentucky.  Ohio State hasn’t made the tourney in 3 years and they got Thompson a 5 star kid to sign.  My opinion only but most recruits think they will be the reason to turn things around.