IUWBB vs Southern Indiana - Wednesday, 12.04.24 @ 7:00 on B1G+

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,881]

We've cut the lead to 6 but it hasn't been easy for the women.  44-41 midway through the 3rd.  Jules is still in the locker room.  Yarden and Shay both have 3 fouls.  USI has 3 players with 3 fouls each.  Thus far in the 3rd, we held USI to 1-5 FG.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,881]

3:19 left in the 3rd and we've tied it up 44-44.  And then Shay immediately picks up her 4th foul.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,881]

51-48 USI leads after 3 Qs.

Expended a lot of effort in the 3rd and don't know if we've got enough left in the tank for another 10 minutes.  Jules did return to the bench and checked back in for the last 35 sec. of the quarter.  

[mickey one 50]

I get the feeling that some of the people on the IU bench--if they were playing for USI today, they would have 10 points and 5 rebounds. There is something suffocating or limiting . . . . and definitely uninspiring, about the IU team this year. You look for overachievement; but what we are seeing is woeful underachievement. Don't know exactly what is causing it, but it seems to be a wet blanket over this team/season.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,881]

56-55 Hoosiers with 7:00 left.  Make that 58-55 with 6:23 left.

[JerryYeagley23 3,669]

6 minutes ago, mickey one said:

I get the feeling that some of the people on the IU bench--if they were playing for USI today, they would have 10 points and 5 rebounds. There is something suffocating or limiting . . . . and definitely uninspiring, about the IU team this year. You look for overachievement; but what we are seeing is woeful underachievement. Don't know exactly what is causing it, but it seems to be a wet blanket over this team/season.

I think some of that comes from a lack of development and playing time as underclassmen. It’s been a mainstay of CTM teams that frosh don’t get minutes unless they’re Holmes/Buss level immediate impact. And like I mentioned above we usually only go 6-7 deep. Well, our upperclassmen finally graduated after benefiting from xtra years for injuries (Patberg/Cardano) or covid (Berger/Holmes). This is kind of the cliff you fall off eventually when you don’t develop young players and don’t hit a home run in the portal. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,881]

60-57 Hoosiers with 1:52 left.  Honestly don't know how they dug themselves out of a 15 point hole considering we're "blistering" the nets at 36% and we're 8-28 on 3s -- Yarden 2-12.  And our FT shooting also a measly 12-20.

[TTT 957]

DDEFENSE

Degree of difficulty in this one = 10

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,881]

60-59 just 34 sec. left.  We're in another 4 min. drought.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,881]

Shay with a HUGE 3 with 25 sec. left and gives us a 63-59 lead

[JerryYeagley23 3,669]

Looks like we’ll escape but not a lot of confidence being built scraping by and losing to, some of these mid-majors. Need Syd back. Early January we have a brutal schedule. UCLA, Iowa, ILL and USC in first five games all ranked. Yikes. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,881]

IU women survive with a 67-63 win.

I don't know about the team, but I'm exhausted.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,448]

Shooting was atrocious, glad they won but this is clearly a down year for Moren.  Gotta grit this year out and hope to get either more athletic or at least some more accountable bucket getters. This team is lacking in both categories.  

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,881]

Next up a road trip to Penn State (8-1) on Saturday to open B1G play.  

[IUHoosierJoe 1,167]

Not a great game, but Southern Indiana women are pretty good.  Number 82 in the NET.

[Aaron 4,294]

FYI Moren said in post game presser Jules isn't hurt but was sick with stomach issues and basically implied she was running to restroom in locker room during game.

Sorry to hear that but glad she isn't hurt. Don't need more injuries.

[TheWatShot 14,066]

I was going through the NET rankings to find our opponents so far. 

 

For the 3 games we lost, Harvard (36) is Quad 2, would become Quad 1 if they reach the top 30. UNC is Quad 1 and should stay there. Butler is 65 right now, so that's Quad 1 as well if they don't drop below 75. 

 

Baylor (25) is our best win right now. Columbia (47) is also just barely a Quad 1 win. Stanford (34) could become Quad 1 if they move up. Brown (223) and Maine (242) have been our only easy games so far. USI was 82 entering tonight. That becomes Quad 2 if they reach 75 or better. 

 

So it's possible that we've already beaten 4 NCAA tournament teams. It hasn't been pretty but our resumé isn't too shabby right now. 

[LamarCheeks 19,073]

Unfortunately, I didn't see the game. Decided to limit my streaming services this season and didn't want to spend on B1G-plus again (may end up changing my mind, though). 

Anyway, I saw some of the post-game presser with Ciezki and Meister. They said CTM totally read them the riot act at halftime -- as she should have. Glad they responded. 

 

[RaceToTheTop 25,929]

23 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Shooting was atrocious, glad they won but this is clearly a down year for Moren.  Gotta grit this year out and hope to get either more athletic or at least some more accountable bucket getters. This team is lacking in both categories.  

Goal this year would be to just find a way into the tournament.  FWIW, the women were 49 in NET on Monday.

[Aaron 4,294]

On 12/4/2024 at 11:15 PM, TheWatShot said:

I was going through the NET rankings to find our opponents so far. 

 

For the 3 games we lost, Harvard (36) is Quad 2, would become Quad 1 if they reach the top 30. UNC is Quad 1 and should stay there. Butler is 65 right now, so that's Quad 1 as well if they don't drop below 75. 

 

Baylor (25) is our best win right now. Columbia (47) is also just barely a Quad 1 win. Stanford (34) could become Quad 1 if they move up. Brown (223) and Maine (242) have been our only easy games so far. USI was 82 entering tonight. That becomes Quad 2 if they reach 75 or better. 

 

So it's possible that we've already beaten 4 NCAA tournament teams. It hasn't been pretty but our resumé isn't too shabby right now. 

Your using the men's numbers for Quads. For women it is slightly different.

Home its 1-25 Quad One, 26-55 Quad Two, 56-90 Quad Three, 91+ Quad Four. Neutral Its 1-35 Quad One, 36-65 Quad Two, 66-105 Quad Three, 106+ Quad Four. Road its 1-40 Quad One, 41-80 Quad Two, 81-130 Quad Three, 131+ Quad Four.

Harvard will be hard to become Quad One, Butler Is Quad Three and would need to move to top 80 to even be Quad Two, Columbia is well in Quad Two and not likely to become top 35, USI is borderline Quad Three/Four and will not sniff Quad Two.

I don't agree with NCAA's reasoning that it is easier to win on road in women's game, hence the difference. However, that is what we are dealing with.

Here is the full resume with current NET of 41 as of today (Dec 11):

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketballw/2025/team-net-sheet?team=Indiana