IUWBB vs. No. 24/23 Stanford -- Sunday, 11/17/24 @2 p.m. on FS1

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15 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Final: Hoosiers 79, Stanford 66

Where was this the past two games! 

Some nice balance, including from Ciezki -- hope she's settling in. She can be a great asset. 

CMM: 21 points

Ciezki: 19 points

Garzon: 18 points, 8 rebounds

I think Garzon and Ciezki will be scorers.  Keep Chloe at a high level (high energy up and feeling good).  Then get more from a very capable Parrish and a surprising improvement from Meister and IU Ladies are back.

[FloridaHoosierGirl 4,588]

That was a lot of fun for my first game seeing them this season.  Good job, ladies!  

[maharkn 1,686]

Intriguing.  Probably have to stay with Lilly and patiently hope.  Garzon played for Lilly a little and everything was good but got stuffed on her shots.  Might be a place for LaMendola in the middle…she seems to be tough with quickness.. don’t know.

Start leMendola until Lexi is back and then you move Garzon to the five which would be an offensive mismatch

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Currently, Meister may feel like she is going through like a boot camp.  Maybe, by mid season she gets tired of getting  pushed around and fumbling the ball around that she becomes dependable.

[OliviaPope40 6,445]

Much much much better game this year I was worried.

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Keep seeing the word upset in IU Ladies win.  Yes, ranking and record but this home game was not an upset…an excellent win but not an upset.

[LamarCheeks 18,063]

4 minutes ago, TTT said:

Keep seeing the word upset in IU Ladies win.  Yes, ranking and record but this home game was not an upset…an excellent win but not an upset.

I had seen that Stanford was favored by as many as 9 points.

This definitely was an upset. 

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Taking ball out of Chloe’s hands and putting it in Czieki’s worked out well. (bringing ball up and starting offense)

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26 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

I had seen that Stanford was favored by as many as 9 points.

This definitely was an upset. 

Not even a minor upset.  More of 25th ranked Ladies much better than getting off to rocky start of season and Stanford winning 4 home games by alot = Stanford 9 point favorite and an excellent (only) win for IU Ladies.  Many examples of upsets but not this one.

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3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Just saw Bargesser out of the walking boot and in uniform on the bench. That’s really good news.

Should get play in Battle 4 Alantis per T. Moren.

[LamarCheeks 18,063]

45 minutes ago, TTT said:

Not even a minor upset.  More of 25th ranked Ladies much better than getting off to rocky start of season and Stanford winning 4 home games by alot = Stanford 9 point favorite and an excellent (only) win for IU Ladies.  Many examples of upsets but not this one.

IU was 1-2 and unranked with two bad losses to inferior opponents. And we took a 32-point beatdown from Stanford last season. The Cardinal was 4-0 and ranked -- and was a 9-point favorite. 

And IU won.

That's pretty much the textbook definition of an upset. 

[IUHoosierJoe 1,086]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

Not even a minor upset.  More of 25th ranked Ladies much better than getting off to rocky start of season and Stanford winning 4 home games by alot = Stanford 9 point favorite and an excellent (only) win for IU Ladies.  Many examples of upsets but not this one.

We’re three days removed from you posting that this season could see several 25-40 point losses, a few people posting that Moren hasn’t recruited worth a damn given all the program’s success, and one person posting that Moren couldn’t coach and should be replaced.  So I’d say it was a major upset.

[Aaron 4,265]

I think the lack of post play is fatal at this point and not going to improve much. However, if the guards play like they did today and the D keeps up, the team can somewhat work around that. Pre-Mack they won on guard play and not much from bigs. 

They won't win at an elite level this year, but they could win at the level they did under Tyra Buss and that crew and compete for a tourney spot with this version of guards.

Offseason project is get a serviceable big. if Wiseman or Makalusky isn't ready, team needs to find someone in the portal that is at least decent to have any chance to be close to what they were the last five seasons.

Lily deserved a chance to play a bigger role and I wrongly thought she was capable. However, she has shown that like Trey Galloway she is better as an energy player and backup for a few minutes a game. Armed with that knowledge, now go get someone for the main role in the post just as the men had to do this year with Myles Rice at PG to put Galloway back where he belongs. That is the key for the future. 

No knock on Lily and players like that are important. However, thrusting them into the spotlight as a primary player makes them a lesser version of themselves. As for Striplin she was a bit player at Tennessee and not surprised it is similar here and that is what I expected. Essentially team has two back up level bigs and is forced to start one of them.  

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7 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

We’re three days removed from you posting that this season could see several 25-40 point losses, a few people posting that Moren hasn’t recruited worth a damn given all the program’s success, and one person posting that Moren couldn’t coach and should be replaced.  So I’d say it was a major upset.

Yep, wrong about several 25-40 point losses.  And this win being an upset let alone a major upset is laughably wrong.

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41 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

IU was 1-2 and unranked with two bad losses to inferior opponents. And we took a 32-point beatdown from Stanford last season. The Cardinal was 4-0 and ranked -- and was a 9-point favorite. 

And IU won.

That's pretty much the textbook definition of an upset. 

IU Ladies before Harvard game was ranked 25.  Plus Stanford is not last years Stanford team that had to fly across a couple time zones. (like IU did last year).  Textbook definition of upset is laughable.

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18 minutes ago, Aaron said:

I think the lack of post play is fatal at this point and not going to improve much. However, if the guards play like they did today and the D keeps up, the team can somewhat work around that. Pre-Mack they won on guard play and not much from bigs. 

They won't win at an elite level this year, but they could win at the level they did under Tyra Buss and that crew and compete for a tourney spot with this version of guards.

Offseason project is get a serviceable big. if Wiseman or Makalusky isn't ready, team needs to find someone in the portal that is at least decent to have any chance to be close to what they were the last five seasons.

Lily deserved a chance to play a bigger role and I wrongly thought she was capable. However, she has shown that like Trey Galloway she is better as an energy player and backup for a few minutes a game. Armed with that knowledge, now go get someone for the main role in the post just as the men had to do this year with Myles Rice at PG to put Galloway back where he belongs. That is the key for the future. 

No knock on Lily and players like that are important. However, thrusting them into the spotlight as a primary player makes them a lesser version of themselves. As for Striplin she was a bit player at Tennessee and not surprised it is similar here and that is what I expected. Essentially team has two back up level bigs and is forced to start one of them.  

Makalusky is not a big.  She is a slender 6’3” forward/guard/wing shooter 

[LamarCheeks 18,063]

26 minutes ago, TTT said:

IU Ladies before Harvard game was ranked 25.  Plus Stanford is not last years Stanford team that had to fly across a couple time zones. (like IU did last year).  Textbook definition of upset is laughable.

[IUHoosierJoe 1,086]

25 minutes ago, TTT said:

Yep, wrong about several 25-40 point losses.  And this win being an upset let alone a major upset is laughably wrong.

Thursday at 9:23 AM in the IUWBB - News and Notes thread you literally posted "This season definitely has the potential to accumulate many 25 to 40 point losses."  Are you not aware that I can go back and look at your posts?

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2 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

Thursday at 9:23 AM in the IUWBB - News and Notes thread you literally posted "This season definitely has the potential to accumulate many 25 to 40 point losses."  Are you not aware that I can go back and look at your posts?

I meant I was wrong about that post I made.  Not you.  Sorry for the confusion.

[IUHoosierJoe 1,086]

2 minutes ago, TTT said:

I meant I was wrong about that post I made.  Not you.  Sorry for the confusion.

Gotchya.  So based on one more game, you decided that the 2 losses were upsets, and the Stanford game wasn't an upset.  Well, I hope you're right and you won't need to change your mind again, lol.