Fire Coach Woodson Thread

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7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

1. $10 million buyout after this season. Along with what we'd owe Woody that's possible but a bit of a hindrance.
2. Private school - terms not public, but yes ... agree.
3. $20 million buyout after this season. So no.

Wes Miller is my Brad Stevens. I would’ve hired him when they hired Woody and I would have seriously considered him when they hired Archie. Great still-young coach and I love his temperament for the job. He solves your issue for 25 years.

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42 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

1. $10 million buyout after this season. Along with what we'd owe Woody that's possible but a bit of a hindrance.
2. Private school - terms not public, but yes ... agree.
3. $20 million buyout after this season. So no.

But remember, with the last contract extension, Woodson's payout is $1M/year... that helps somewhat with cash flow.

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14 minutes ago, IUFAN1976 said:

That’s been an issue for quite some time and pointing fingers at him is a theory.   Didn’t Crean bring him in?  If so, when and how did Crean’s team shoot that year(s) he was there for Crean?

I looked him up. His bio says he’s been 8 years.  So 4 with miller and 4 with woodson?  If crean did bring him in it was at the end.  

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2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

^^100%^^

It certainly did not scare Pope away from UK, and the grief that Calipari took was many measures higher than anything Woody has gone through. 

Hell, it didn't scare away Langdon Hatton. When asked after last night's game what it's been like to sit and watch so much, he answered that the only reaction he's had is that it's a dream come true to get to play at IU.

I may be wrong but I don’t think Pope was one of the top candidates when the UK job opened up.  I know his name was on some lists we had for IU candidates but was down the list, if on it at all. He had success at BYU but was far from a sure thing.  

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3 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

I may be wrong but I don’t think Pope was one of the top candidates when the UK job opened up.  I know his name was on some lists we had for IU candidates but was down the list, if on it at all. He had success at BYU but was far from a sure thing.  

I see what you mean about Pope being far from a sure thing but at the same time, I think "sure things" are relatively few and far between when it comes to coaching searches. Theres only a handful of guys who have won titles in D1 ... you're not generally gonna be able to get those guys barring extraordinary circumstances. In terms of proven commodities - I'd definitely prefer to see some first place conference finishes/deep runs in March, but I think any search has to start with consistent winning and you can fill in the unique blanks to each search from there. Pope fit the bill for UK and seems to be paying off, though it's early. His ceiling may not be known yet as a coach but I think people can be reasonably confident he will win consistently at UK. On some level, that's sort of all you can ask for IMO. 

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10 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

I looked him up. His bio says he’s been 8 years.  So 4 with miller and 4 with woodson?  If crean did bring him in it was at the end.  

USPS wasn't the strength coach under Crean  the crazy one who jumped around and tried to fight everyone. 

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2 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

As my kid said -- gotta watch those stairs at the Upstairs Pub.  Their pretty steep.  :)  

But, yeah, let's blame twitter.  So typical of these guys.  

 

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1 minute ago, ap2345 said:

Clown show…

Saw a good one on Twitter:

IUBB this year - quality wins: 0. Funny pictures of players going out the night before a game: 2

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Clown show…
Saw a good one on Twitter:
IUBB this year - quality wins: 0. Funny pictures of players going out the night before a game: 2

I don't think suspending a kid and not saying why is much punishment imo

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Just now, coonhounds said:

I don't think suspending a kid and not saying why is much punishment imo

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Sounds like he just didn’t want to hear noise from the untrue fans for not disciplining players tbh 

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5 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

God, he is pathetic. One of the few times I despise a fan who roots for the same team as me. 

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14 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Sounds like he just didn’t want to hear noise from the untrue fans for not disciplining players tbh 

Maybe Anthony Leal was right; we all just need to chill out. Just let these guys party and party hard the night before games. If we don't talk about it, maybe it never happened! 

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24 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

As my kid said -- gotta watch those stairs at the Upstairs Pub.  Their pretty steep.  :)  

But, yeah, let's blame twitter.  So typical of these guys.  

 

They just cannot take responsibility for their actions on and off the court.  Our $1M NIL 7ft center brazenly went out to a popular bar on a Saturday night -- this is ridiculous behavior.

I hope whoever the next coach is cleans house, including whoever Tyme knows in the program.

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30 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

I don't think suspending a kid and not saying why is much punishment imo

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It's Woodson's clown show. That's all you need to know.

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59 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I see what you mean about Pope being far from a sure thing but at the same time, I think "sure things" are relatively few and far between when it comes to coaching searches. Theres only a handful of guys who have won titles in D1 ... you're not generally gonna be able to get those guys barring extraordinary circumstances. In terms of proven commodities - I'd definitely prefer to see some first place conference finishes/deep runs in March, but I think any search has to start with consistent winning and you can fill in the unique blanks to each search from there. Pope fit the bill for UK and seems to be paying off, though it's early. His ceiling may not be known yet as a coach but I think people can be reasonably confident he will win consistently at UK. On some level, that's sort of all you can ask for IMO. 

Agree.  He hasn't won big yet, but he is recruiting very well and appears to be a good coach that plays modern basketball.  That's the formula for success, this isn't rocket surgery.  Bonus points in that he cares and appears to be a straight shooter.  It stinks, but I think they got this hire right and he is going to do very well there.  Ugh.

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Of course he was and he will next game. Woodson is a pushover, and his million dollar players know it.

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If we’re putting out coaching lists. I fully admit the top 5 have a 1% chance of happening but I’d still offer them top 5 salary and make them turn us down first. 

1. Brad

2. Dusty

3. Pearl

4. Scott drew 

5. Shaka( built something great at Marquette and is from Wisconsin but maybe he wants to try his hand at a blue blood)

6 Chris Jans (winner everywhere he’s been and Mississippi St looks amazing this year)  

7. Wes miller (probably would leave us for UNC if we ever get good)

8. Mccollum (not sold on his offense but he’s a winner and hopefully smart enough to adapt)

9. Hoiberg (good coach but may not have the personality for the job)

10. The Bucky McMillan, schertz of the world. I thought this tier of candidate was better last year but new names will pop up as the season goes. Unsure why shrews gets brought up since he’s had one good season his entire time coaching and even that wasn’t great. Intrigued by mark byington at vandy depending on how sec play goes.

 

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

They just cannot take responsibility for their actions on and off the court.  Our $1M NIL 7ft center brazenly went out to a popular bar on a Saturday night -- this is ridiculous behavior.

I hope whoever the next coach is cleans house, including whoever Tyme knows in the program.

I have no issue with these guys being college kids.  However, during the season discretion is in order.  A few cold ones after the game, no problem.  The night before is better spent eating well and getting some sleep.  There are plenty of nights to party hard in the offseason.