Bracketology and Team Resumes

[Uspshoosier 49,331]

3 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

I would think that the nature of some of our losses (Louisville, Gonzaga, Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin) will definitely factor against us if we're right on the bubble...

Not really they are all viewed as Q1 losses.  Doesn’t matter how bad you got stomped.   Most the bubble teams will have Q3 losses.   Bottom of the bubble is always gross.  Virginia made it last year.  Wins on the road against tourney teams will overshadow blowout losses to Q1 teams.   

[IU Prof 1,380]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Not really they are all viewed as Q1 losses.  Doesn’t matter how bad you got stomped.   Most the bubble teams will have Q3 losses.   Bottom of the bubble is always gross.  Virginia made it last year.  Wins on the road against tourney teams will overshadow blowout losses to Q1 teams.   

Are there really examples of teams squeezing in with 5 losses of 18+ points? That seems pretty extreme to me, even if you're right about the general rule.

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7 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Are there really examples of teams squeezing in with 5 losses of 18+ points? That seems pretty extreme to me, even if you're right about the general rule.

I don't have any examples off the top of my head, but I think if you are losing to Quad 1 teams they number you lose by is less important that if you are losing at all to Q2, Q3, or Q4 teams.

[Uspshoosier 49,331]

22 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Are there really examples of teams squeezing in with 5 losses of 18+ points? That seems pretty extreme to me, even if you're right about the general rule.

Yeah every year.  Recent one would be  Virginia last year     They got smashed all year.  7 losses by 15 or more.   Some 30 point blowouts and they still made the First 4.  They  got killed by teams not even tourney quality teams.    It’s not hard to make this tourney.    The argument would be they are bubble teams.  Every team on the bubble has flaws and since they are a bubble team they are not expected to beat a protected seeded team.    

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6 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yeah every year.  Recent one would be  Virginia last year     They got smashed all year.  7 losses by 15 or more.   Some 30 point blowouts and they still made the First 4.  They  got killed by teams not even tourney quality teams.    It’s not hard to make this tourney.    The argument would be they are bubble teams.  Every team on the bubble has flaws and since they are a bubble team they are not expected to beat a protected seeded team.    

Colorado last year had a 47 point loss on their resume.

[IU Prof 1,380]

19 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yeah every year.  Recent one would be  Virginia last year     They got smashed all year.  7 losses by 15 or more.   Some 30 point blowouts and they still made the First 4.  They  got killed by teams not even tourney quality teams.    It’s not hard to make this tourney.    The argument would be they are bubble teams.  Every team on the bubble has flaws and since they are a bubble team they are not expected to beat a protected seeded team.    

Good to know, thanks. When I run the selection committee I'll be sure to change that...

[Uspshoosier 49,331]

4 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Good to know, thanks. When I run the selection committee I'll be sure to change that...

Now there might be people that bring that up when they are discussing IU as a possible at-large team but the counter to that would be someone could also bring up they had a 1 possession game on the road with a top 3 seed with under 10 sec to go, they had a 1 possession game at home against another team solidly in the field and they were tied at the under 4 timeout against another tourney team solidly in the field.    

[Muskie plays the four 610]

4 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Tyme @Tyme1299218

Back on bubble (it is soft as hell) Said weeks ago 10-10 gets them in.

 

Purely out of curiosity, has anyone ever seen USPS and Tyme in the same room at the same time?

I've always thought USPS was shady. 

[Uspshoosier 49,331]

3 minutes ago, Muskie plays the four said:

I've always thought USPS was shady. 

I always thought my basement had too many people in it during March. Might have to downgrade to just me this year during Champ week and the first week of the tourney 

[Uspshoosier 49,331]

31 minutes ago, IU Prof said:

Good to know, thanks. When I run the selection committee I'll be sure to change that...

I’m with you though I would rather that spot go to a solid mid major that has a ton of wins instead of a middle of the pack mediocre power 4 team however I’ve been doing this along time and know that’s not how it works.   When they committee changes then I will start projecting differently however until they do its mediocre power 4 teams that will get the benefit of the doubt 

[Hovadipo 58,926]

7 minutes ago, Muskie plays the four said:

I've always thought USPS was shady. 

 

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

I always thought my basement had too many people in it during March. Might have to downgrade to just me this year during Champ week and the first week of the tourney 

[RaceToTheTop 27,837]

20 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

I always thought my basement had too many people in it during March. Might have to downgrade to just me this year during Champ week and the first week of the tourney 

if you have one person for every tv, you'd be over fire code.

[Muskie plays the four 610]

33 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

I always thought my basement had too many people in it during March. Might have to downgrade to just me this ye Champ week and the first week of the tourney 

That would be cruel and unusual punishment lol 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 87,335]

[RaceToTheTop 27,837]

Torvik team cast has Indiana currently projected as the third team out and a 20% chance to earn an at large bid.

[Uspshoosier 49,331]

16 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Torvik team cast has Indiana currently projected as the third team out and a 20% chance to earn an at large bid.

Probably has them projected to lose against UCLA and Purdue at home.   If they are his 3rd team out before imagine what happens if they beat 2  more tourney teams.  I’m guessing that 20 chance goes way up 

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1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

Probably has them projected to lose against UCLA and Purdue at home.   If they are his 3rd team out before imagine what happens if they beat 2  more tourney teams.  I’m guessing that 20 chance goes way up 

His projection has them winning 19 games, so going 3-3 the rest of the way.  It doesn't assign where the wins/losses come, but the three most likely to win games I would think would be Penn State, Ohio State, and at Washington.  I would think beating UCLA or Purdue would put them on the right side of the bubble -- last four in -- but last four are always in danger of losing a bid from a bid stealer.

I would agree that winning all four home games gets them in.  Winning three + at Washington is a maybe.

[steubenhoosier 1,449]

Jerry Palm —yeah, I know, has IU as the last team in as a 12 seed playing one of the play in games v Arkansas.

[Uspshoosier 49,331]

17 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Jerry Palm —yeah, I know, has IU as the last team in as a 12 seed playing one of the play in games v Arkansas.

Palm is one the worst national guys year in and year out.    That’s very generous for his projection.   I got them First 4 out with them being the 4th team out 

[steubenhoosier 1,449]

54 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Palm is one the worst national guys year in and year out.    That’s very generous for his projection.   I got them First 4 out with them being the 4th team out 

Yes, I don’t care for Palm. Regardless of what he says, his Purdue bias always comes through