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3 minutes ago, chicagoHOOSIER said:

It was a very poor decision if only one person made the decision to call for a black-out, and impossible to believe 10,000 people did not consider the possible connection.  Impossible and sickening.

So, are all blackouts racist then? If you have a white coach but black players and do a blackout, is that racist? The "racist IU blackout" took place years before people became hypersensitive and offended by everything. It could very well be the case that people didn't even think about it. 

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6 minutes ago, chicagoHOOSIER said:

It was a very poor decision if only one person made the decision to call for a black-out, and impossible to believe 10,000 people did not consider the possible connection.  Impossible and sickening.

People often make poor choices when under the influence of the mob mentality.

Did 10,000 people even participate. Like I said I couldn't find a single account of more than a handful of black shirts being worn 

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7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

So, are all blackouts racist then? If you have a white coach but black players and do a blackout, is that racist? The "racist IU blackout" took place years before people became hypersensitive and offended by everything. It could very well be the case that people didn't even think about it. 

You seem to feel very strongly about defending the behavior, and the mob's decision to discount the possible racist undertones failing to even consider the insensitivity altogether.  I do not comprehend the thought process that goes into ignoring that insensitivity, and then to so forcefully argue in favor of the behavior.  Your argument in favor sounds like a bunch of excuses and rationalizations and talking in circles.

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16 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Did 10,000 people even participate. Like I said I couldn't find a single account of more than a handful of black shirts being worn 

Yeah.  At least half the crowd in Assembly Hall dressed in black.  Bizarre.

Much to their credit, the student section did not seem to jump on the bandwagon.  The surviving internet reports on google support that. 

Probably many more internet accounts of the black-out available using duckduckgo.  Google is really turning to sh@t as far as paid search is concerned.  They control too much of the market share, and have become way too greedy.  That is why almost no search results come up anymore when internet searches used to generate hundreds of thousands of results per search.  Now on google we are lucky to get 100, and those are probably nearly all paid.

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7 minutes ago, chicagoHOOSIER said:

You seem to feel very strongly about defending the behavior, and the mob's decision to discount the possible racist undertones failing to even consider the insensitivity altogether.  I do not comprehend the thought process that goes into ignoring that insensitivity, and then to so forcefully argue in favor of the behavior.  Your argument in favor sounds like a bunch of excuses and rationalizations and talking in circles.

You have zero proof that the blackout was done because IU had a black coach. Like, it's absurd. You're making a huge accusation without any proof. I was like 10 when this happened so I have no interested in defending said actions. Just pointing out that you're making a terrible argument. 

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1 minute ago, chicagoHOOSIER said:

Oh ok so now you are simply saying I made up a lie.

No im saying you are claiming something drastic an abhorrent without any proof of it occurring and if it did occur that it happened in the context that you are claiming. 

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Just now, Brass Cannon said:

No im saying you are claiming something drastic an abhorrent without any proof of it occurring and if it did occur that it happened in the context that you are claiming. 

I am telling you what I observed.  I am not arguing whether it happened or not.  You are arguing that.  I am not interested in proving it.  If it is difficult for you to come to grips with what happened, and you prefer to simply say it never happened, then so be it.  You are a free man.

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1 minute ago, chicagoHOOSIER said:

I am telling you what I observed.  I am not arguing whether it happened or not.  You are arguing that.  I am not interested in proving it.  If it is difficult for you to come to grips with what happened, and you prefer to simply say it never happened, then so be it.  You are a free man.

The burden of proof typically falls on the party making the claims. 

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Just now, chicagoHOOSIER said:

Like I said, if you do not want to take my account at face value, don't.  You were not there.  I was.

Your account is that IU had a blackout, and that it was racist because IU had a black coach. That leaves a pretty huge gap. You've failed to provide any evidence to bridge it. 

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15 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

You have zero proof that the blackout was done because IU had a black coach. Like, it's absurd. You're making a huge accusation without any proof. I was like 10 when this happened so I have no interested in defending said actions. Just pointing out that you're making a terrible argument. 

I do not think it is at all a terrible argument to say that 10,000 IU fans made a really bad choice if they chose to go along with a black-out the day they wanted to tell Mike Davis he was no longer welcome in Bloomington.

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7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Your account is that IU had a blackout, and that it was racist because IU had a black coach. That leaves a pretty huge gap. You've failed to provide any evidence to bridge it. 

Yeah, not going to either.  If you fail to see poor judgement by the mob that day, then OK. I am not trying to convert you to a new religion.  The black-out expression was in extremely poor taste that day.

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4 minutes ago, Joe DeLow said:

I'm going to guess that at an incredibly liberal school isn't going to wear shirts to be racist. I'm going to guess it had more to do with "death." Such as "death of an era." Black is a gloomy color. Shows sadness and emptiness. I doubt the students were thinking "he is black, so we should wear black to show we want him fired." That doesn't even make sense. 

The students mostly did not wear black.  The adults were the ones doing that, mostly really old adults.  Mostly the student section did not want to touch the black-out statement with a ten foot pole.

 

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6 minutes ago, chicagoHOOSIER said:

I do not think it is at all a terrible argument to say that 10,000 IU fans made a really bad choice if they chose to go along with a black-out the day they wanted to tell Mike Davis he was no longer welcome in Bloomington.

If someone is offended by the color of a t-shirt then idk what to say. Am I supposed to be offended whenever a team has a white out because I have white skin?

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5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

If someone is offended by the color of a t-shirt then idk what to say. Am I supposed to be offended whenever a team has a white out because I have white skin?

Are you being genuine or obtuse? 

I am going to let you struggle through the questions you have on your own.

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