RatpigHoosier Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 I could probably think of a million better things to talk about guys. If I wanted to read this stuff, I’d just hop back on Facebook Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersTHANK YOU!Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Dalton26 and thebigweave 2 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, chicagoHOOSIER said: It was a very poor decision if only one person made the decision to call for a black-out, and impossible to believe 10,000 people did not consider the possible connection. Impossible and sickening. People often make poor choices when under the influence of the mob mentality. Did 10,000 people even participate. Like I said I couldn't find a single account of more than a handful of black shirts being worn Quote
chicagoHOOSIER Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: So, are all blackouts racist then? If you have a white coach but black players and do a blackout, is that racist? The "racist IU blackout" took place years before people became hypersensitive and offended by everything. It could very well be the case that people didn't even think about it. You seem to feel very strongly about defending the behavior, and the mob's decision to discount the possible racist undertones failing to even consider the insensitivity altogether. I do not comprehend the thought process that goes into ignoring that insensitivity, and then to so forcefully argue in favor of the behavior. Your argument in favor sounds like a bunch of excuses and rationalizations and talking in circles. RatpigHoosier 1 Quote
chicagoHOOSIER Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Did 10,000 people even participate. Like I said I couldn't find a single account of more than a handful of black shirts being worn Yeah. At least half the crowd in Assembly Hall dressed in black. Bizarre. Much to their credit, the student section did not seem to jump on the bandwagon. The surviving internet reports on google support that. Probably many more internet accounts of the black-out available using duckduckgo. Google is really turning to sh@t as far as paid search is concerned. They control too much of the market share, and have become way too greedy. That is why almost no search results come up anymore when internet searches used to generate hundreds of thousands of results per search. Now on google we are lucky to get 100, and those are probably nearly all paid. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Just now, chicagoHOOSIER said: Yeah. At least half the crowd in Assembly Hall dressed in black. Bizarre. Well not that I'm doubting you and your obviously totally unbiased opinion. But any photos of that? Quote
chicagoHOOSIER Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Well not that I'm doubting you and your obviously totally unbiased opinion. But any photos of that? Oh ok so now you are simply saying I made up a lie. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, chicagoHOOSIER said: You seem to feel very strongly about defending the behavior, and the mob's decision to discount the possible racist undertones failing to even consider the insensitivity altogether. I do not comprehend the thought process that goes into ignoring that insensitivity, and then to so forcefully argue in favor of the behavior. Your argument in favor sounds like a bunch of excuses and rationalizations and talking in circles. You have zero proof that the blackout was done because IU had a black coach. Like, it's absurd. You're making a huge accusation without any proof. I was like 10 when this happened so I have no interested in defending said actions. Just pointing out that you're making a terrible argument. Iugradman 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, chicagoHOOSIER said: Oh ok so now you are simply saying I made up a lie. No im saying you are claiming something drastic an abhorrent without any proof of it occurring and if it did occur that it happened in the context that you are claiming. Quote
chicagoHOOSIER Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Just now, Brass Cannon said: No im saying you are claiming something drastic an abhorrent without any proof of it occurring and if it did occur that it happened in the context that you are claiming. I am telling you what I observed. I am not arguing whether it happened or not. You are arguing that. I am not interested in proving it. If it is difficult for you to come to grips with what happened, and you prefer to simply say it never happened, then so be it. You are a free man. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, chicagoHOOSIER said: I am telling you what I observed. I am not arguing whether it happened or not. You are arguing that. I am not interested in proving it. If it is difficult for you to come to grips with what happened, and you prefer to simply say it never happened, then so be it. You are a free man. The burden of proof typically falls on the party making the claims. Hoosierfan2017 and thebigweave 2 Quote
chicagoHOOSIER Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: The burden of proof typically falls on the party making the claims. Like I said, if you do not want to take my account at face value, don't. You were not there. I was, and I was not the only one offended. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Just now, chicagoHOOSIER said: Like I said, if you do not want to take my account at face value, don't. You were not there. I was. Your account is that IU had a blackout, and that it was racist because IU had a black coach. That leaves a pretty huge gap. You've failed to provide any evidence to bridge it. Quote
chicagoHOOSIER Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: You have zero proof that the blackout was done because IU had a black coach. Like, it's absurd. You're making a huge accusation without any proof. I was like 10 when this happened so I have no interested in defending said actions. Just pointing out that you're making a terrible argument. I do not think it is at all a terrible argument to say that 10,000 IU fans made a really bad choice if they chose to go along with a black-out the day they wanted to tell Mike Davis he was no longer welcome in Bloomington. Quote
chicagoHOOSIER Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Your account is that IU had a blackout, and that it was racist because IU had a black coach. That leaves a pretty huge gap. You've failed to provide any evidence to bridge it. Yeah, not going to either. If you fail to see poor judgement by the mob that day, then OK. I am not trying to convert you to a new religion. The black-out expression was in extremely poor taste that day. Quote
chicagoHOOSIER Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Joe DeLow said: I'm going to guess that at an incredibly liberal school isn't going to wear shirts to be racist. I'm going to guess it had more to do with "death." Such as "death of an era." Black is a gloomy color. Shows sadness and emptiness. I doubt the students were thinking "he is black, so we should wear black to show we want him fired." That doesn't even make sense. The students mostly did not wear black. The adults were the ones doing that, mostly really old adults. Mostly the student section did not want to touch the black-out statement with a ten foot pole. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, chicagoHOOSIER said: I do not think it is at all a terrible argument to say that 10,000 IU fans made a really bad choice if they chose to go along with a black-out the day they wanted to tell Mike Davis he was no longer welcome in Bloomington. If someone is offended by the color of a t-shirt then idk what to say. Am I supposed to be offended whenever a team has a white out because I have white skin? Quote
chicagoHOOSIER Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: If someone is offended by the color of a t-shirt then idk what to say. Am I supposed to be offended whenever a team has a white out because I have white skin? Are you being genuine or obtuse? I am going to let you struggle through the questions you have on your own. Quote
RatpigHoosier Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Can somebody please PM me and let me know when it’s safe to come back and actually read about post season thoughts of 2018 and not in-season thoughts from 2006? Thanks in advance. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners swingline91, woodenshoemanHoosierfan, thebigweave and 3 others 6 Quote
TheWatShot Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Sometimes I have to laugh at my own stupidity and naivete, and maybe this is one of those times, but I could have sworn people were wearing black shirts to that game because it was against Iowa and black is one of their colors. Hoosierfan2017 1 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, chicagoHOOSIER said: Are you being genuine or obtuse? I am going to let you struggle through the questions you have on your own. You refuse to answer anyone's questions about the situation. You refuse to provide any evidence that the blackout was done because of the coach's skin color. It's like you want everyone to believe your story without providing any evidence to back it up. Quote
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