Coach Search 2017 IU Candidate: Billy Donovan (OKC Thunder)

[Hoosier Guy 8,333]

I doubt it's gonna be Dane Fife. Either Donovan or Archie

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

No because that is his track record. And that's not how you build elite programs. 

Please explain how his track record aligns with hiring a coach with zero D1 head coaching experience


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[Brass Cannon 25,380]

4 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Please explain how his track record aligns with hiring a coach with zero D1 head coaching experience


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Our current Baseball and Football coaches. 

Throw in our soccer coach and they had a grand total of 1 year of HC experience. 

[Stuhoo 88,868]

Our current Baseball and Football coaches. 

Throw in our soccer coach and they had a grand total of 1 year of HC experience. 

And Fife alone has five years.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Our current Baseball and Football coaches. 

Throw in our soccer coach and they had a grand total of 1 year of HC experience. 

For as much time as we spend discussing how important our basketball program is, I don't agree that his decisions for our baseball and football programs, which were in much different situations, are good indicators of how he'll approach the basketball hire.


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[Brass Cannon 25,380]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

 

And Fife alone has five years.

 

Ok so maybe Glass will think he's over qualified. 

[Brass Cannon 25,380]

Just now, Walking Boot of Doom said:

For as much time as we spend discussing how important our basketball program is, I don't agree that his decisions for our baseball and football programs, which were in much different situations, are good indicators of how he'll approach the basketball hire.


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We shall see. 

[Stuhoo 88,868]

29 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Ok so maybe Glass will think he's over qualified. 

 

LOL (A newborn can help to further cultivate one's sense of humor, eh?)

[AZ Hoosier 10,752]

34 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

For as much time as we spend discussing how important our basketball program is, I don't agree that his decisions for our baseball and football programs, which were in much different situations, are good indicators of how he'll approach the basketball hire.


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Not sure I agree. The best predictor of future behavior is past, relevant behavior. Are you saying that Glass' choice for the men to lead the baseball, football and soccer programs at a major D1 school in a power conference is not relevant to the (soon-to-be) open job as basketball head coach?

[Adillac 1,009]

I bet it will be Donovan.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Not sure I agree. The best predictor of future behavior is past, relevant behavior. Are you saying that Glass' choice for the men to lead the baseball, football and soccer programs at a major D1 school in a power conference is not relevant to the (soon-to-be) open job as basketball head coach?

Not completely. My expectation is that he understands, being the AD, that the donors have much greater expectations for the head basketball coach and are not willing to take as many risks. Also, the decision making procreas associated with hiring the coach for a historically bad football team with very low expectations and little ability to attract top coaching talent doesn't seem very comparable to our basketball situation.


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[Brass Cannon 25,380]

9 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

LOL (A newborn can help to further cultivate one's sense of humor, eh?)

lol I think snark is how I cope with the stress and exhaustion

[coonhounds 10,543]

I will be honest fife is a 100% risk and probably wont happen but i wanted them to hire him when they hired crean lol so if he is announced head coach he has my support till his teams look like a crean team then i am out

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[Adillac 1,009]

A fun rumor at another iu board about Geno Auriemma. 

[Stuhoo 88,868]

 

Great post on a Dayton board about what it would take for Archie Miller to leave UD. The sane posters and relative insiders on that board are more than interested in the coaching situations at NC State, OSU, and IU, with many threads about Archie-interest. As a collective conclusion, they are convinced that NC State will not be Archie's landing spot. 

When will Archie leave UD? They say when:

"I think there are probably 10-12 jobs in the country that are a certain "step up" from our Flyers. There's probably another 10 or so that are on-par with our Flyers. Beyond that, everything else is a step down.
 

Archie will leave when the right opportunity comes along. What is "the right opportunity"? Only Archie knows for sure, but I believe it will include:
- Facilities that are first-rate.
- An institution (school) that supports him and works with him to promote the success of the program.
- A fan base that (a) takes its basketball seriously, and (b) is steady in its support of the program. And, most importantly,
- A chance to compete for championships not only at the conference level but at the national level as well.

Anything less would be a step backward from where he is right now."
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[Hovadipo 61,336]

A fun rumor at another iu board about Geno Auriemma. 

I was wondering when he'd come up this time around.

Pass.

(Great, great coach though)


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[Alford Bailey 13,208]

6 minutes ago, Adillac said:

A fun rumor at another iu board about Geno Auriemma. 

He is too old now but Ive mentioned him in the past. He knows the game.

[Hovadipo 61,336]

 

Great post on a Dayton board about what it would take for Archie Miller to leave UD. The sane posters and relative insiders on that board are more than interested in the coaching situations at NC State, OSU, and IU, with many threads about Archie-interest. As a collective conclusion, they are convinced that NC State will not be Archie's landing spot. 

When will Archie leave UD? They say when:

"I think there are probably 10-12 jobs in the country that are a certain "step up" from our Flyers. There's probably another 10 or so that are on-par with our Flyers. Beyond that, everything else is a step down.
 

Archie will leave when the right opportunity comes along. What is "the right opportunity"? Only Archie knows for sure, but I believe it will include:
- Facilities that are first-rate.
- An institution (school) that supports him and works with him to promote the success of the program.
- A fan base that (a) takes its basketball seriously, and (b) is steady in its support of the program. And, most importantly,
- A chance to compete for championships not only at the conference level but at the national level as well.

Anything less would be a step backward from where he is right now."
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They literally just explained IU.

PAY HIM


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[Class of '66 Old Fart 90,072]

I can't find the post that had won-loss records of the 'name' coaches before they got the job that made them a 'name'.  Not overly impressive but they've proven to be pretty darn good coaches over the long haul.  Not my first choice but Fife could be a very good coach at IU for a very long time.  And for the naysayers I acknowledge that he could be a monumental bust.  But as the stock trade promoters like to say, past performance is not indicative of future performance.  

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[Stuhoo 88,868]

29 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

 

They literally just explained IU.

PAY HIM


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BINGO. And THAT's why they are mighty worried about the IU job opening up on the Dayton board.

Oh, and by the way... it's also a pretty good endorsement of a coach when a fan base is unanimously terrified that the coach might leave.