Colts / NFL Game Thread

[IUfan_Charlie 3,867]

That game almost gave me a stroke. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,557]

2 things we learned. Reinforced..

1. This Defense can't handle hurry up offense.

2. I'm okay with Luck as my QB.

He had 2 bad picks early. Both are probably on him. One thing I watch for closely on replays is WR seperation. The Colts WR corps don't separate well at all. Usually luck has to give them 5 seconds to separate vs 3.5.


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[TheWatShot 15,538]

Irsay is probably going to embarrass himself with tweets that the Colts are "back."

[Dalton26 17,208]

That had to be some of the worst officiating I've ever seen. Seems like teams always get the shaft in Seattle.

[IUfan_Charlie 3,867]

The NFL is such a joke now. And they wonder why ratings are down. I can't name one good referee in the NFL. 

[Hovadipo 61,540]

The NFL is such a joke now. And they wonder why ratings are down. I can't name one good referee in the NFL. 

There are many reasons the NFL is down right now. Refs are definitely a part of it. But it's just bad all around. I've probably watched an hour of non-Bears football all year and that's coming from a guy that has been glued to NFL RedZone on Sundays since it became a thing.


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[BtownBanner6 1,298]

There are many reasons the NFL is down right now. Refs are definitely a part of it. But it's just bad all around. I've probably watched an hour of non-Bears football all year and that's coming from a guy that has been glued to NFL RedZone on Sundays since it became a thing.


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it's down because you can't hit anyone anymore. I understand safety but this game has always been a fan favorite because of the violence you take that away you lose fans.

[IUfan_Charlie 3,867]

Richard Sherman diving into a kicker's knee isn't a penalty, but holding a football up is 15 yards.

[Hovadipo 61,540]

it's down because you can't hit anyone anymore. I understand safety but this game has always been a fan favorite because of the violence you take that away you lose fans.

Agree. I wish there was a middle-ground that could be reached, but it'll only get less violent from here. There's no going back at this point. I think another big part of it is over-exposure. I don't want 365 days of football. The NFL gets shoved down people's throats so hard year-round that it's getting stale. And it doesn't help that the product itself is currently a flaming bag of crap put on America's doorstep by Rog and Co. Give me the 20 or so weeks of actual football, the draft, and some training camp to get back in the mood. I don't need NFL Live on at 4:00 and NFL Insiders at 4:30 with NFL Fantasy Now on ESPN2 from 4:00-5:00 in June. Make me crave your product, don't make me ingest it without water.

[Dalton26 17,208]

I think the biggest issue with officiating isn't that they make mistakes it's that there is little to no repercussions when they make them. There was 3 mistakes within 3 seconds of game time. If a player criticizes the referee they get fined even when the refs royally screw up. I think that's the biggest issue.

[Josh 13,238]

On 11/6/2016 at 3:25 PM, Hovadipo said:

Not a Colts fan either (in fact I can't stand them), so I feel I'm unbiased in saying that if you can't see that Andrew Luck's turnovers are many times a direct result of having 1 actual NFL player (TY) and 9 fry cooks surrounding him, then you don't know much about football and should most likely stop posting about it.


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On 11/6/2016 at 3:54 PM, Josh said:

Some times they are. Many times they aren't. As a Bears fan, how much Colts do you watch?

 

On 11/6/2016 at 4:21 PM, mdn82 said:

Unfortunately a lot since I live in this state and every game is on. I enjoy watching football on Sunday's. Easier to get Colts tickets than Bears tix.


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Thanks.  I understand you watch a lot of football mdn, you and I have been discussing it for a long time.  I have a lot of respect for your insight.

I was asking the OP who said my opinions on Andrew Luck were so bad that I don't know football and should stop posting about it.  I was wondering about that's guy's opinion.  I've always liked him, but that accusation needs a little more info.  I've watched every single Andrew Luck snap as a Colt.  I may be wrong, but how many snaps has he watched?  That's relevant to that kind of accusation.

[Josh 13,238]

Great win by the Colts!  A total team effort.  Pagano actually coached well and played the clock well.  The defense did well, the line protected Luck.  Bad Andy happened in the 1st quarter, but Good Andy did extremely well for the last 3.  Great movement of the ball, great defense, great play calling.  We didn't see the prevent defense that killed us earlier this year.

As for stupid penalties, I only count the one, the roughing the passer call that cost us an interception.  Minimizing stupid penalties was great.  Great win.

We're so close to first place again and there's a lot of season to go.  Just make the playoffs and anything can happen.

[Hovadipo 61,540]

Thanks.  I understand you watch a lot of football mdn, you and I have been discussing it for a long time.  I have a lot of respect for your insight.

I was asking the OP who said my opinions on Andrew Luck were so bad that I don't know football and should stop posting about it.  I was wondering about that's guy's opinion.  I've always liked him, but that accusation needs a little more info.  I've watched every single Andrew Luck snap as a Colt.  I may be wrong, but how many snaps has he watched?  That's relevant to that kind of accusation.

Considering I've either lived in Indiana or 10 minutes from it my entire life, a lot of my football viewing has included the Colts. Does Andrew Luck make some bad decisions? Yes. Is his turnover "problem" (Dalton proved he's middle of the pack anyways this year, when it seems like your anti-Luck crusade started) many times due to having an absolute garbage roster around him? Absolutely. I don't know how you can expect him to perform any differently than he has with the offense he has to play with. They can't run, block, or get open. That's the recipe for a ton of turnovers. It doesn't take watching every Andrew Luck snap to realize that. Your point would be more valid if you were willing to even kind of budge, but you seem to insist that he and his turnover epidemic is the reason that the Colts suck and that couldn't be further from the truth. I would argue that what he's done with what he's been given to work with is pretty impressive. I'd kill to have Andrew Luck in Chicago.


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[Josh 13,238]

8 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

 

Considering I've either lived in Indiana or 10 minutes from it my entire life, a lot of my football viewing has included the Colts. Does Andrew Luck make some bad decisions? Yes. Is his turnover "problem" (Dalton proved he's middle of the pack anyways this year, when it seems like your anti-Luck crusade started) many times due to having an absolute garbage roster around him? Absolutely. I don't know how you can expect him to perform any differently than he has with the offense he has to play with. They can't run, block, or get open. That's the recipe for a ton of turnovers. It doesn't take watching every Andrew Luck snap to realize that. Your point would be more valid if you were willing to even kind of budge, but you seem to insist that he and his turnover epidemic is the reason that the Colts suck and that couldn't be further from the truth. I would argue that what he's done with what he's been given to work with is pretty impressive. I'd kill to have Andrew Luck in Chicago.


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Weird.  Earlier you said you haven't watched 30 minutes of football this year outside of the Bears.

Anyway, you have your opinion and I have mine.  I'd rather keep it respectful instead of saying the other opinion is so wrong that that person doesn't understand football and shouldn't post about it.  That's very condescending.

Luck has many times where his accuracy and/or decision making is terrible.  Many people agree with that.  Maybe you haven't seen those.

[Hovadipo 61,540]

Weird.  Earlier you said you haven't watched 30 minutes of football this year outside of the Bears.

Anyway, you have your opinion and I have mine.  I'd rather keep it respectful instead of saying the other opinion is so wrong that that person doesn't understand football and shouldn't post about it.  That's very condescending.

Luck has many times where his accuracy and/or decision making is terrible.  Many people agree with that.  Maybe you haven't seen those.

The Colts played the Bears this year and Luck has been in the league for more than one season. Weird. And did you miss the part where I said that he has his lapses? Because I 100% said that. Maybe you didn't see it...


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[KingPG21 6,604]

7 hours ago, Josh said:

Great win by the Colts!  A total team effort.  Pagano actually coached well and played the clock well.  The defense did well, the line protected Luck.  Bad Andy happened in the 1st quarter, but Good Andy did extremely well for the last 3.  Great movement of the ball, great defense, great play calling.  We didn't see the prevent defense that killed us earlier this year.

As for stupid penalties, I only count the one, the roughing the passer call that cost us an interception.  Minimizing stupid penalties was great.  Great win.

We're so close to first place again and there's a lot of season to go.  Just make the playoffs and anything can happen.

The personal foul on Davis that took him out for a bit was one of the worst calls I've seen against us. He literally played that as well as you could expect.... just so happened the wide out lowered his head. 

[Josh 13,238]

The Colts played the Bears this year and Luck has been in the league for more than one season. Weird. And did you miss the part where I said that he has his lapses? Because I 100% said that. Maybe you didn't see it...


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Ok, your sample size is limited to one game and highlights. I can still respect your opinion, but I think sample size is pertinent to telling somebody that they don't know what they're talking about and telling them they shouldn't post. That's self-righteous and condescending...and against everything I've ever seen you post. I hope you can find a hovahug and accept all opinions.

[Josh 13,238]

The personal foul on Davis that took him out for a bit was one of the worst calls I've seen against us. He literally played that as well as you could expect.... just so happened the wide out lowered his head. 

Agreed. By "stupid penalties" I meant the self inflicted type. The only one I remember was the obvious roughing the passer call (I think it was Kerr?) that cost us an interception. Otherwise it was a smart game.

[TheWatShot 15,538]

Texans and Titans both won today. Last week, Pagano said he was "excited about where we are right now." I hope a reporter asks him if he's surprised about being in 3rd place at the bye week. 

[Dalton26 17,208]

Where has this team been all year? Putting it to the Titans in the first.