2017 IUBB recruiting

[GnarlyNormEllenberger 1,462]

Keep in mind that Clifton Moore and Jordan Tucker are cousins.

So we have that going for us... which is nice.

[IUsince1980 315]

Keep in mind that Clifton Moore and Jordan Tucker are cousins.

So we have that going for us... which is nice.

Honestly, i doubt that means much here. Looks as if Beatty will be here so only 1 more scholly at most available. Maybe that will fuel one of these kids.

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[Yogi's Picnic Basket 5,004]

Look what NC state did this year. Went from being ranked based off having Dennis Smith solely. Then in spring got the foreign kid, johnson, hicks and another kid I can't think of his name. Of the 4 Hicks was the only guy they were even hard after at this time last year. Things can change very quickly people we still have what looks to be a great season to look forward too. Our recruiting is only going to get better. TB, OG & JBJ whether defense or not someone will take him off his offense will be in the league. That's 3 added to Troy, EG, Vonleh, Zeller, & Oladipo. With Yogi having a chance as well. When your a guy or two away from double digit guys in the league it says a lot. Be patient people, Crean is laying the foundation. I'm perfectly okay w things right now. Green, Newkirk, RoJo, Cujo, DD, Juwan, Smith are all good players and Moore has potential. If we can get one of Tucker, Diallo(very long shot I know), Preston or another kid that pops up or reclasses I'm fine. If not Beatty isn't a bad consolation prize to those guys I would love him here and want him his position just isn't that needed. Next year should be the year we go hard after guards IMO.

[Brass Cannon 25,212]

Just now, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

Look what NC state did this year. Went from being ranked based off having Dennis Smith solely. Then in spring got the foreign kid, johnson, hicks and another kid I can't think of his name. Of the 4 Hicks was the only guy they were even hard after at this time last year. Things can change very quickly people we still have what looks to be a great season to look forward too. Our recruiting is only going to get better. TB, OG & JBJ whether defense or not someone will take him off his offense will be in the league. That's 3 added to Troy, EG, Vonleh, Zeller, & Oladipo. With Yogi having a chance as well. When your a guy or two away from double digit guys in the league it says a lot. Be patient people, Crean is laying the foundation. I'm perfectly okay w things right now. Green, Newkirk, RoJo, Cujo, DD, Juwan, Smith are all good players and Moore has potential. If we can get one of Tucker, Diallo(very long shot I know), Preston or another kid that pops up or reclasses I'm fine. If not Beatty isn't a bad consolation prize to those guys I would love him here and want him his position just isn't that needed. Next year should be the year we go hard after guards IMO.

Recruiting is only going to get better?  

False, recruiting is currently on a downward trend and it can easily get worse. 

Crean is laying the foundation?  If he is just now laying foundation how long till the house gets built?  

[Alford Bailey 13,173]

Preston or Tucker and Im ok with this class.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Recruiting is only going to get better?  

False, recruiting is currently on a downward trend and it can easily get worse. 

Crean is laying the foundation?  If he is just now laying foundation how long till the house gets built?  

You notice that this is really one of the first seasons where people don't seem to be calling for Crean's firing? His perceived job stability will only aid in recruiting, and he continues to get guys to the NBA. A Final Four at Indiana would really help.

He's been laying the foundation. You want recruiting results like that of Arizona, UK, Duke, Syracuse, and Louisville? Those coaches have been stable in their position for many many years, sending guys to the NBA, and winning. The kind of consistent recruiting you want takes a lot of foundation.


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[Uspshoosier 53,091]

You notice that this is really one of the first seasons where people don't seem to be calling for Crean's firing? His perceived job stability will only aid in recruiting, and he continues to get guys to the NBA. A Final Four at Indiana would really help.

He's been laying the foundation. You want recruiting results like that of Arizona, UK, Duke, Syracuse, and Louisville? Those coaches have been stable in their position for many many years, sending guys to the NBA, and winning. The kind of consistent recruiting you want takes a lot of foundation.


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Having Hall of fame coaches doesn't hurt and besides Arizona all those programs have that going for them as well


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[JSHoosier 22,150]

1 minute ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

You notice that this is really one of the first seasons where people don't seem to be calling for Crean's firing? His perceived job stability will only aid in recruiting, and he continues to get guys to the NBA. A Final Four at Indiana would really help.

He's been laying the foundation. You want recruiting results like that of Arizona, UK, Duke, Syracuse, and Louisville? Those coaches have been stable in their position for many many years, sending guys to the NBA, and winning. The kind of consistent recruiting you want takes a lot of foundation.


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Those coaches had stability because they won at a higher level than Crean.  Coaches have stability because they won and earned it, when people were calling for Crean to be fired because under his watch the program had fallen off a cliff when he should've built on and sustained and he had no track record to point to.

He wants their stability?  He has to win at their level, not the other way around.

[Brass Cannon 25,212]

That stability sure as hell didn't help this year in recruiting which looks to be leaving us in another "few down years" period. 

How exactly is that going to help the program in the long term. But yeah I forgot the buzz word foundation. Building a foundation is all you need. Shame we really don't have one. 

[Uspshoosier 53,091]

That stability sure as hell didn't help this year in recruiting which looks to be leaving us in another "few down years" period. 

How exactly is that going to help the program in the long term. But yeah I forgot the buzz word foundation. Building a foundation is all you need. Shame we really don't have one. 

Our recent down year came off a big ten championship team and an incoming top 5 recruiting class. No one can know for sure how a future recruiting class will have an impact and be considered "down year period" or know one can say for sure if we landed a recruit like Preston that we automatically will be a better team. I'm sure Lsu fans thought that when they got Simmons and Blakeney that they would be playing in the tournament. They looked good on paper but paper can't win you games


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[Brass Cannon 25,212]

4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Our recent down year came off a big ten championship team and an incoming top 5 recruiting class. No one can know for sure how a future recruiting class will have an impact and be considered "down year period" or know one can say for sure if we landed a recruit like Preston that we automatically will be a better team. I'm sure Lsu fans thought that when they got Simmons and Blakeney that they would be playing in the tournament. They looked good on paper but paper can't win you games


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That Big Ten champion team had 3 Five Stars on it. 4 really but JBJ was hurt. 

Next years will have none. 

Say what you will about recruiting rankings but I'd rather roll with highly ranked guys versus lower ranked guys. Especially with the amount we spend on recruiting. 

[BGleas 8,900]

3 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

That Big Ten champion team had 3 Five Stars on it. 4 really but JBJ was hurt. 

Next years will have none. 

Say what you will about recruiting rankings but I'd rather roll with highly ranked guys versus lower ranked guys. Especially with the amount we spend on recruiting. 

Who were the four 5*'s? We've never had 4 on the same team. 

[Brass Cannon 25,212]

2 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Who were the four 5*'s? We've never had 4 on the same team. 

Troy, Yogi, Bryant and JBJ

[Uspshoosier 53,091]

That Big Ten champion team had 3 Five Stars on it. 4 really but JBJ was hurt. 

Next years will have none. 

Say what you will about recruiting rankings but I'd rather roll with highly ranked guys versus lower ranked guys. Especially with the amount we spend on recruiting. 

My point was the team that went 17-15 had 3 star starters and 2 high 4 star. This result was after our first big 10 championship. We rolled with the highly ranked guys that year and didn't make the tournament. My point is luckily the NCAA allows teams to play the games on the court instead of just giving the win to teams with the 5 stars ( sarcasm button pushed)


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[BGleas 8,900]

Just now, Brass Cannon said:

Troy, Yogi, Bryant and JBJ

Troy wasn't a 5*. He was rated a 4*, around 53/54 on 24/7 and ESPN. 

[Uspshoosier 53,091]

Troy, Yogi, Bryant and JBJ

Not one scouting service had Troy in the finished 2013 rankings a 5 star


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[Brass Cannon 25,212]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Not one scouting service had Troy in the finished 2013 rankings a 5 star


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Was he a 5 star when he committed? 

Regardless that team had 2 next years team will have none. 

[Uspshoosier 53,091]

Was he a 5 star when he committed? 

Regardless that team had 2 next years team will have none. 

No he wasn't


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[Uspshoosier 53,091]

Was he a 5 star when he committed? 

Regardless that team had 2 next years team will have none. 

Maybe not I don't know that for sure since I can't see that far into the future about who will be on the team next year. I can speculate that the team will have senior leadership at the guard position which in the tournament can go a long way and even without that precious 5 star by their names we will have Johnson (top 50 player as a senior), newkirk( top 120 player as a 5th year senior)
Juwan Morgan (top 80 player as a junior), deron Davis (top 40 player as a sophomore), cujo( top 40 player by espn, 60's for others) ,Justin smith ( top 70 player as a freshman). I'm sorry I just refuse to buy in to doom and gloom for next year with those guys in the mix. Just my opinion


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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Those coaches had stability because they won at a higher level than Crean.  Coaches have stability because they won and earned it, when people were calling for Crean to be fired because under his watch the program had fallen off a cliff when he should've built on and sustained and he had no track record to point to.

He wants their stability?  He has to win at their level, not the other way around.

Yes you are correct...

Back to discussing recruiting.


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