Possible Reason For The 2 Year Slide--The Failed Movement

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One thing that I find troubling is that Jurkin was primarily recruited to land Perea. Let's just be honest about that. So you offer a kid who has no business in the B1G and will never see the floor to get the "prized" recruit who is immensely raw and unprepared to see major minutes until he's forced to do so as a Junior.

 

Thta's wrong-headed all the way around.

 

This happens every year at every program around the country. Whether it be recruiting a guys friend, hiring a guy's old high school or AAU coach, hiring a guy's DAD. Literally every year. It's part of recruiting and it never will cease to be. 

[8bucks 6,564]

This happens every year at every program around the country. Whether it be recruiting a guys friend, hiring a guy's old high school or AAU coach, hiring a guy's DAD. Literally every year. It's part of recruiting and it never will cease to be.

Did you really mean every year at every program? Not sure it is that common. We invited Todd Leary to get Montross (oops), Etherington helped get Cody and Jurkin may have helped with HP

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Did you really mean every year at every program? Not sure it is that common. We invited Todd Leary to get Montross (oops), Etherington helped get Cody and Jurkin may have helped with HP

 

I mean it happens somewhere literally every year. Not every year at every program. 

 

And I was going to bring up Etherington, too. He was definitely influential in building the relationship with Cody, though Crean gets most of the credit for that. Jurkin was huge in getting HMP. 

 

Look at Jalen Brunson - his Dad got hired at Temple (temporarily, before some indiscretions got that offer revoked) and you better believe that one of the top PG's in the country was going to pass up on all his better offers and go to Temple instead. 

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One thing that I find troubling is that Jurkin was primarily recruited to land Perea. Let's just be honest about that. So you offer a kid who has no business in the B1G and will never see the floor to get the "prized" recruit who is immensely raw and unprepared to see major minutes until he's forced to do so as a Junior.

 

Thta's wrong-headed all the way around.

It sure looks like that's a possibility, but Indiana was recruiting both Peter and Hanner when they were 14-15 as sophomores, same as they were recruiting Hollowell and Patterson that year, as freshman. Peter had potential to be a definite servicable big man, but the injuries curtailed any chances of that happening at Indiana.

 

We had won 16 games in 2 years when PJ committed and our bigs on the roster were Capo, Bawa and Pritch and we just came off a year with Cwat eating more leather than any 6'9" guy ever should. Cody was no such guarantee, nor was Hanner and Lyles hadn't commited yet either. Under the circumstances existing in august '10, I'm sure few of us would have declined a desire for PJ to don the candies.

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I you remember, the signs of "The Movement" not living up to the hype started well before they got to IU. Remember Jurkin's injuries in high school, Hanner's declining performance at LaLu, Patterson asking off the Indiana Elite AAU team the summer before coming to IU, and mostly that entire AAU summer before they arrived?

Remember people discussing Indiana Elite, with Yogi, Hanner, Patterson, Hollowell and Jurkin sweeping through the AAU season and winning every tournament? But, when the summer actually arrived they struggled big time against the other top AAU programs. IIRC, they didn't win any of the big AAU tournaments that summer. The signs were there well before that class ever got to IU.

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I you remember, the signs of "The Movement" not living up to the hype started well before they got to IU. Remember Jurkin's injuries in high school, Hanner's declining performance at LaLu, Patterson asking off the Indiana Elite AAU team the summer before coming to IU, and mostly that entire AAU summer before they arrived?

Remember people discussing Indiana Elite, with Yogi, Hanner, Patterson, Hollowell and Jurkin sweeping through the AAU season and winning every tournament? But, when the summer actually arrived they struggled big time against the other top AAU programs. IIRC, they didn't win any of the big AAU tournaments that summer. The signs were there well before that class ever got to IU.

I will add that Dakich, who was an AAU coach as well at that time, mentioned on air that the kids in this group were over rated and were generally not kids he thought would be great at the next level.

You can miss on one kid in the class but if you are great at evaluating talent you can't miss on a large class like that.

[Gahoosierfan 274]

I think the way to look at that class is to look at what top programs wanted those players. Were Duke, UK, MSU, or any others seriously interested? Dakich was right for once.

[BenzOrBeamer 351]

eh.

Coaches don't have thousands of kids to evaluate?

Only crean