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Your first two paragraphs highlight my biggest concern. Does UK have a facility in their backyard comparable to Lucas Oil that could be used to host the event? NO!

Although I believe it's a loss for us to not play them I'm not so sure that it wouldn't be a bigger loss to invite them in to play a big game in our backyard which just happens to be one of the most fertile recruiting area in the country.

Dont think it matters all that much. Cal come in here and gets what he wants anyway. We just need to step up out game recruiting in state.

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Dont think it matters all that much. Cal come in here and gets what he wants anyway. We just need to step up out game recruiting in state.


I definitely agree with your last sentence. I think it will take a little time to determine whether ending the rivalry for now we'll effect your first two sentences.

I really felt like Crean had it going after Zellers two years but somewhere it seems we lost our juice a little.

I don't think stars are all there is to determine recruiting but I'd really like to see us step our game a little. For the most part college basketballs best teams are the ones getting the players with the most stars after their names.

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Looking at all this subjectively, one thing that is commonly overlooked is the importance of the neutral site games when Kentucky plays "at IU" aka (Lucas Oil/ Bankers Life/ whatever Indianapolis venue...). Coach Cal has a perfect opportunity to not only visit, but also "host" Indianapolis recruits on essentially an away game.  

 

That's one reason UK wants Neutral sites so badly.  Indianapolis and Indiana High school talent > High School talent everywhere else, especially Kentucky's piss poor HS talent.  UK has nothing to lose and no HS talent to poach when other schools come in town.

 

I also read following that UK upset to WVU back in 2011 or 2012 in the NCAA, Cal was saying a major reason they lost was because they hadn't played in a football arena that whole season, and the atmosphere and ambiance threw his inexperienced team of freshmen off.  So i guess if you think about it, for the sole purpose of prepping your team up for March Madness and the NCAA tourney, playing a bunch of neutrals is kinda beneficial.

Unless he's just full of spit and everyone buys that excuse

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I think this is a really stupid argument. I don't think it's so much who's scared of one another. It was a matter of ego's and UK being pretentious enough to say, "We can do better without you, than you without us".... Sadly, so far they've been right.

 

The one thing that's kinda fcked us is the Hoosier Crossroad Classic, it's not so much the teams participating are bad, it just eats up the one weekend where all the other marquee tournaments take place with all the other blueblood schools like UK, DUKE, KU, MSU, UNC, etc...

That's a stupid response (we're even) he wasn't comfortable in his team being able to win and didn't want to risk it-ergo-scared.

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Well in all fairness, he opted out of the series before he and the rest of the college basketball world knew his team would be poop.

 

I think it's fair to say, that IU was projected to be better, I think we had the #1 preseason rank, but they were also up there at #3 i think? So while scheduling, it would've been a 1v3 matchup on paper. remember, hindsight is always 20/20

Didn't take hindsight. He knew we would be better than the team that just beat him and gave them their toughest tournament game

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I definitely agree with your last sentence. I think it will take a little time to determine whether ending the rivalry for now we'll effect your first two sentences.

I really felt like Crean had it going after Zellers two years but somewhere it seems we lost our juice a little.

I don't think stars are all there is to determine recruiting but I'd really like to see us step our game a little. For the most part college basketballs best teams are the ones getting the players with the most stars after their names.

absolutely!

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Ah I was just referring to improvements in some of the programs since he's been here.


I don't follow all of the programs here very closely, but I really can't think of a bad one besides football. And it should be on the upswing.

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They already were tho I thought


Don't discount Glass firing Freitag after a couple good but not great seasons and bringing in Yeagley. That was somewhat of a bold move to get rid of Freitag but he knew it was his shot to bring Yeagley back before he built a power at Wisconsin.

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