College Bball Thread

[hoosierdogg]

Hogs beat Dogs.  Crean couldn't play fast enough against 40 minutes of hell.  

[LamarCheeks]

Just now, hoosierdogg said:

Hogs beat Dogs.  Crean couldn't play fast enough against 40 minutes of hell.  

He had 16 Diet Cokes, however. 

[Stuhoo]

As if we needed proof that Bryce Drew is really really bad at coaching basketball:

Tonight in Nashville at the half:

Kentucky 45

Vandrrbilt 15

Vandy with 14 turnovers and 2 assists. Yes; you read that right. At halftime Vandy has one more point than turnover.

 

 

[Uspshoosier]

Wisky wins at Nebraska. Huskers fall to 3-7 in the B1G


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[Uspshoosier]

https://sports.yahoo.com/hungry-coach-led-discovery-viral-college-sensation-ja-morant-020738543.html


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[Rico]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://sports.yahoo.com/hungry-coach-led-discovery-viral-college-sensation-ja-morant-020738543.html


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I read something on him yesterday.  IIRC, he is on pace to be the first player in 27 years to average 20 pts. and 10 assists per game.

[Bailey7878]

As if we needed proof that Bryce Drew is really really bad at coaching basketball:
Tonight in Nashville at the half:
Kentucky 45
Vandrrbilt 15
Vandy with 14 turnovers and 2 assists. Yes; you read that right. At halftime Vandy has one more point than turnover.
 
 

But he sure is fun to listen to wired. I guess no more five stars for him.

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[Rico]

1 hour ago, Bailey7878 said:

But he sure is fun to listen to wired. I guess no more five stars for him.

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I don't know about that wired part.  But as far as the 5*s, Garland was in the backyard.  And I have no idea how he landed Shittu, who I believe is from Canada.  Drew is between a rock and a hard place.  You got Tennessee and now you got Penny at Memphis.  Not a good recruiting base to begin with at all.  Add to it the SEC is on the rise from a talent standpoint as well as a coaching standpoint.  I really don't foresee him lasting much longer there.  To be honest, I don't know why he took the job in the first place.  

[Josh]

10 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

As if we needed proof that Bryce Drew is really really bad at coaching basketball:

Tonight in Nashville at the half:

Kentucky 45

Vandrrbilt 15

Vandy with 14 turnovers and 2 assists. Yes; you read that right. At halftime Vandy has one more point than turnover.

 

 

I'm so confused about when we can blame coaches.  We had a similar first half against Michigan and.....everybody

[Stuhoo]

14 minutes ago, Josh said:

I'm so confused about when we can blame coaches.  We had a similar first half against Michigan and.....everybody

 

Ummm, not really comparable: While we were really bad against Michigan in that first half, at halftime we were down 15 and cut the lead to nine early in the second half before falling apart again and losing by 23. That was our absolute (I think - lol) 'worst case - everything goes wrong' scenario.

UK tripled (!), yes...TRIPLED the score on Vandy by halftime, and once Vandy started to play better in the second half, they cut the lead to as small as ... 29 for a few minutes.

Vandy is winless in conference; with Drew they have gone from 10-8 in conf (with Drew coaching Stallings' players) to 6-12 last year, and this year to 0-7, and has defensive stats that are beyond belief bad, in Drew's third year. IU is a borderline NCAA tourney team currently.

Also ...where did you get the idea that their is confusion about when it has been time for IU fans to blame the coach? You should read your own posts (and those of DeLow and Bailey). I'm pretty sure that, even with your condescending question about "when can we blame coaches?" there has been plenty of that. 

 

[Josh]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Ummm, not really comparable: While we were really bad against Michigan in that first half, at halftime we were down 15 and cut the lead to nine early in the second half before falling apart again and losing by 23. That was our absolute (I think - lol) 'worst case - everything goes wrong' scenario.

UK tripled (!), yes...TRIPLED the score on Vandy by halftime, and once Vandy started to play better in the second half, they cut the lead to as small as ... 29 for a few minutes.

Vandy is winless in conference; with Drew they have gone from 10-8 in conf (with Drew coaching Stallings' players) to 6-12 last year, and this year to 0-7, and has defensive stats that are beyond belief bad, in Drew's third year. IU is a borderline NCAA tourney team currently.

Also ...where did you get the idea that their is confusion about when it has been time for IU fans to blame the coach? You should read your own posts (and those of DeLow and Bailey). I'm pretty sure that, even with your condescending question about "when can we blame coaches?" there has been plenty of that. 

 

We had 18 points at halftime, they had 15.  Both programs are a mess.  I think it's ok to blame the coaches, but I'm told that's only ok in one case.  

Condesention works both ways.  

[mdn82]

Man this board sometimes.


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[Walking Boot of Doom]

Man this board sometimes.


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Can you point me to a time in the past 10 years where this phrase wasn’t applicable?


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[Rico]

3 hours ago, Josh said:

We had 18 points at halftime, they had 15.  Both programs are a mess.  I think it's ok to blame the coaches, but I'm told that's only ok in one case.  

Condesention works both ways.  

C'mon now!  Drew just needs time to get his guys there.  Ya know, to run his system.

[Rico]

2 minutes ago, Joe DeLow said:

Gotta give him 4 years right?


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Absolutely.  He needs time to change the culture.

[Walking Boot of Doom]

You guys should go pat each other’s backs offline. And you better believe Vanderbilt is going to give Drew more time after bringing in one of the top recruiting classes in the country to a perennial house of laughs they call a basketball program.

This doesn’t mean you can’t also believe Drew is a terrible coach.


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[IUc2016]

You guys should go pat each other’s backs offline. And you better believe Vanderbilt is going to give Drew more time after bringing in one of the top recruiting classes in the country to a perennial house of laughs they call a basketball program.

This doesn’t mean you can’t also believe Drew is a terrible coach.


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I’m convinced they’re the same person.


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[Josh]

This is the last I'll say of it in this thread.  I love this board too much to muddy all the waters.

Stuhoo is a good poster and a good mod.  He seems to be very intelligent.  However, he pooped the bed in this thread.  When we're told we can't judge Archie because he hasn't had enough time, yet at the same time we can judge Bryce Drew after just 2.5 years, well, that's just hypocrisy.  That deserves to be called out when every post I make gets called out.  Sorry Stu.  Much love.

You guys can be incredulous all you like to the fact that many people are calling for the head when the performance on the court has been so stinky.  You can think we're dumb, don't understand, or are the same person simply trolling.  That's fine.  If we're going to get called out for it, we might do a little barking back.  Go Hoosiers!

[Rico]

41 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

You guys should go pat each other’s backs offline. And you better believe Vanderbilt is going to give Drew more time after bringing in one of the top recruiting classes in the country to a perennial house of laughs they call a basketball program.

This doesn’t mean you can’t also believe Drew is a terrible coach.


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I think you are missing the entire point about Drew here.  We got people defending Archie...but yet it is alright to call out Drew?  Most of the other comments were sarcasm involving a certain post.  

[Stuhoo]

44 minutes ago, Josh said:

This is the last I'll say of it in this thread.  I love this board too much to muddy all the waters.

Stuhoo is a good poster and a good mod.  He seems to be very intelligent.  However, he pooped the bed in this thread.  When we're told we can't judge Archie because he hasn't had enough time, yet at the same time we can judge Bryce Drew after just 2.5 years, well, that's just hypocrisy.  That deserves to be called out when every post I make gets called out.  Sorry Stu.  Much love.

You guys can be incredulous all you like to the fact that many people are calling for the head when the performance on the court has been so stinky.  You can think we're dumb, don't understand, or are the same person simply trolling.  That's fine.  If we're going to get called out for it, we might do a little barking back.  Go Hoosiers!

 

I DO NOT THINK that you "can't judge Archie".

I just think that some of your judgments are pretty premature and not true. And that's okay:

It's a line-drawing exercise in which I think it's hugely myopic to render final judgment on Archie at this point, but I also think that Bryce Drew has proven himself to be a lousy coach and program head. Because...the situations are different!

And btw...+1...Go Hoosiers!