Brass Cannon Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: That's a completely different situation. Lebron didn't go join Boston's big 3 after they beat him. Miami won 47 games the previous year and got bounced 4-1 in the first round. Lebron never lost to Miami in the playoffs. Golden State won 73 games and beat Durant weeks before he joined them. Not even remotely similar, regardless of what the talking heads tell you. While different both were pretty weak. thebigweave 1 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: While different both were pretty weak. Why? The Cavs had 7 years to build a championship team around LeBron and they failed. That's not on him. He wasn't fortunate enough to have a competent front office bring in other star players like Magic, Bird, Jordan, etc. were. So, he went out and did it himself. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Why? The Cavs had 7 years to build a championship team around LeBron and they failed. That's not on him. He wasn't fortunate enough to have a competent front office bring in other star players like Magic, Bird, Jordan, etc. were. So, he went out and did it himself. LeBron was dictating their policies they never had a chance to build one on their own. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 26 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: LeBron was dictating their policies they never had a chance to build one on their own. Not the first time he was in Cleveland. Quote
Brass Cannon Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Not the first time he was in Cleveland. He had them hiring hiring his friends lol Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: He had them hiring hiring his friends lol That has nothing to with the players they brought in, though. They had a chance to build something after he left and we saw how well that went.. The Cavs haven't had a winning season without LeBron since 97/98. Quote
HoosierRobbie Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: That has nothing to with the players they brought in, though. They had a chance to build something after he left and we saw how well that went.. The Cavs haven't had a winning season without LeBron since 97/98. You have your opinion and I have mine. I considered it very weak. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted May 25, 2018 Posted May 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, HoosierRobbie said: You have your opinion and I have mine. I considered it very weak. I don't doubt that you did. You can have your opinion, but it's the wrong one. Quote
HoosierRobbie Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: I don't doubt that you did. You can have your opinion, but it's the wrong one. And that’s your opinion, which most people think is wrong. thebigweave and HoosierAloha 2 Quote
HoosierAloha Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 How can LeBron do this? His only halfway competent teammate is out. I doubt they'll keep it within 10. Quote
HoosierAloha Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 How is that wrong? Durant went to a championship team to get a ring that already had 4 other All-Stars, one MVP, and a heck of a coach. LeBron had to beg a mediocre, at best, Chris Bosh, who was an All-Star but never really played like one and Dwayne Wade, who was good at one point but was terrible after that, the coach was so so too. Completely different scenarios there. It's not like they both left their original teams to team up with good players to try and win a title. Quote
HoosierRobbie Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said: How is that wrong? Durant went to a championship team to get a ring that already had 4 other All-Stars, one MVP, and a heck of a coach. LeBron had to beg a mediocre, at best, Chris Bosh, who was an All-Star but never really played like one and Dwayne Wade, who was good at one point but was terrible after that, the coach was so so too. Completely different scenarios there. It's not like they both left their original teams to team up with good players to try and win a title. I literally laughed reading this whole post. Chris Bosh was a multiple all nba- all star when he signed with Miami. Wade was as well and in his prime. I don’t care enough to continue to argue with you all so good luck with whatever it is that affends you all when anybody speaks ill of lebron. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said: How is that wrong? Durant went to a championship team to get a ring that already had 4 other All-Stars, one MVP, and a heck of a coach. LeBron had to beg a mediocre, at best, Chris Bosh, who was an All-Star but never really played like one and Dwayne Wade, who was good at one point but was terrible after that, the coach was so so too. Completely different scenarios there. It's not like they both left their original teams to team up with good players to try and win a title. There's a huge difference between joining the team that just beat you and creating your own team to take down the team that keeps beating you. If you're at the rec center and a team keeps beating you, do you team up with them or do you keep trying to beat them? Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 1 minute ago, HoosierRobbie said: I literally laughed reading this whole post. Chris Bosh was a multiple all nba- all star when he signed with Miami. Wade was as well and in his prime. I don’t care enough to continue to argue with you all so good luck with whatever it is that affends you all when anybody speaks ill of lebron. Chris Bosh was all-NBA only one time, and he has never been first team all-NBA. Quote
HoosierAloha Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: There's a huge difference between joining the team that just beat you and creating your own team to take down the team that keeps beating you. If you're at the rec center and a team keeps beating you, do you team up with them or do you keep trying to beat them? Does the rec team that keeps beating me need an undersized shooting guard that can't shoot or a point guard who can't pass? If so, I'm being carried by that team to a rec center title. If not I'll go find some players that are cool and really good at basketball. If we don't win I'll complain about the team that keeps beating me that picked up the better pg/sg. However, I would kill it if I got a ton of FTA! Nobody guards you there and I could step over the line anytime I wanted. (calm down people just having a little fun, take a deep breath and laugh a little) thebigweave 1 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: That has nothing to with the players they brought in, though. They had a chance to build something after he left and we saw how well that went.. The Cavs haven't had a winning season without LeBron since 97/98. Yeah they were only the ones scouting the teams they played. The players they drafted or traded for. How could that ever adversely effect a team. Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, HoosierAloha said: How can LeBron do this? His only halfway competent teammate is out. I doubt they'll keep it within 10. Can't ever count out the King. On to game 7! Quote
HoosierAloha Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 11 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: Can't ever count out the King. On to game 7! Never! I mean, how does a human do that after looking so gassed in game 5?! The KING comes out and wins game 6 almost single-handedly!! If LeBron would have hand picked his All-Star teammates he'd have at least 8 titles by now. thebigweave 1 Quote
KingPG21 Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 18 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said: I don't doubt that you did. You can have your opinion, but it's the wrong one. Lol. thebigweave 1 Quote
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