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6 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I'm not seeing any negatives here. If the people in charge can't see that it's well past time to blow up this roster, then fans should really just stop caring, because they clearly don't. There isn't a reason Sabonis, LeVert and Turner should be on the roster past the deadline. 

I've been on the tank train since November. I'm sick and tired of the Pacers being bad and boring every year. 

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20 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

I've been on the tank train since November. I'm sick and tired of the Pacers being bad and boring every year. 

Need to go out and get some real athletes and dudes who actually care. Brogdon hasn't given a damn since he showed up. Always looks like he's just going through the motions. Hated that signing from the beginning. I've been on the tank train since Dipos first injury lol. But so many Tweety Pacer fans thought this roster was a championship caliber team and it was never close. Now's the time to tank, blow it up and get super athletic and fun. 

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7 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I absolutely LOVE the LeVert trade. Very rid of him. Get an expiring contract and 2 good picks. 

Wizards insider reporting they have put in an offer for Domas too, just waiting on a response. I don’t love what they’d realistically send back, but we’ll see. I know you don’t, but I’d like to keep one of the centers and start from scratch otherwise. Move Brogdon around the draft when he’s able to be dealt. 

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17 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Wizards insider reporting they have put in an offer for Domas too, just waiting on a response. I don’t love what they’d realistically send back, but we’ll see. I know you don’t, but I’d like to keep one of the centers and start from scratch otherwise. Move Brogdon around the draft when he’s able to be dealt. 

I say send everyone. Start completely from scratch. Maybe you can get a lottery pick out of Sabonis from a team dumb enough to think they are a "piece away." No one is off limits of trading on this team. Get all the picks you absolutely can. 

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2 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I say send everyone. Start completely from scratch. Maybe you can get a lottery pick out of Sabonis from a team dumb enough to think they are a "piece away." No one is off limits of trading on this team. Get all the picks you absolutely can. 

I don’t hate it but we both know they won’t. I just hope they tank hard enough after moving everyone to get one of the studs this year to build around. We’re going to have a ton of cap space and no one willing to come here and get paid with it per usual. I got a feeling we’re going to get like Hachimura and TB from the Wizards for Sabonis which makes me physically ill. Or PJ Washington and the corpse of Hayward for Myles. Or both. 

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1 minute ago, Hovadipo said:

I don’t hate it but we both know they won’t. I just hope they tank hard enough after moving everyone to get one of the studs this year to build around. We’re going to have a ton of cap space and no one willing to come here and get paid with it per usual. I got a feeling we’re going to get like Hachimura and TB from the Wizards for Sabonis which makes me physically ill. Or PJ Washington and the corpse of Hayward for Myles. Or both. 

I mean I would take Bryant and Hacimura as long as a pick is sent with it. Get young and bad for a couple years, load up on picks and talent and then take off. Gotta get that big time talent though. They need to follow what OKC did with Durant, Westbrook and Harden and what Memphis did with Ja and Jackson. 

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7 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I mean I would take Bryant and Hacimura as long as a pick is sent with it. Get young and bad for a couple years, load up on picks and talent and then take off. Gotta get that big time talent though. They need to follow what OKC did with Durant, Westbrook and Harden and what Memphis did with Ja and Jackson. 

I’m almost certain they can’t trade this year’s pick and they don’t own next year’s. They don’t have a 2nd until ‘26. 

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I like the trade. More financial flexibility and picks. Cleveland should be out of the lottery safely. ThatHpuston 2nd is basically a late first. Expecting one of the bigs to get traded. Trade Goga too, dude has the basketball IQ of a high school freshman, and he is in his third year in the league 

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23 minutes ago, KingPG21 said:

I like the trade. More financial flexibility and picks. Cleveland should be out of the lottery safely. ThatHpuston 2nd is basically a late first. Expecting one of the bigs to get traded. Trade Goga too, dude has the basketball IQ of a high school freshman, and he is in his third year in the league 

From what I've seen, Pacers will have like 26M in cap space this summer. Problem is, Pacers will have 26M in cap space and theyll blow it all on random role players trying to make the playoffs and screw up the entire rebuilding process. 

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12 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

From what I've seen, Pacers will have like 26M in cap space this summer. Problem is, Pacers will have 26M in cap space and theyll blow it all on random role players trying to make the playoffs and screw up the entire rebuilding process. 

Eh, I think they are more fine with sucking this year than years past. The Turner injury is weird, Domas has missed some time he probablu normall wouldn't. There was talk TJW would be back in early January. TJM shows no sign of coming back before the end of the year. Neither does Brogdon. They literally just traded Caris for picks. **** changes, not just gonna happen overnight with a owner like Simon

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34 minutes ago, KingPG21 said:

Eh, I think they are more fine with sucking this year than years past. The Turner injury is weird, Domas has missed some time he probablu normall wouldn't. There was talk TJW would be back in early January. TJM shows no sign of coming back before the end of the year. Neither does Brogdon. They literally just traded Caris for picks. **** changes, not just gonna happen overnight with a owner like Simon

I really hope Brogdon never suits up for the Pacers again. Warren is valuable because his contact is up. TJ needs to be shown the door as quickly as anyone else. Need a couple more expiring contracts. Having Rubio, Warren and Lamb is good. Just soo much to do with this roster and no one in charge really has the balls to do what's needed. 

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10 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I really hope Brogdon never suits up for the Pacers again. Warren is valuable because his contact is up. TJ needs to be shown the door as quickly as anyone else. Need a couple more expiring contracts. Having Rubio, Warren and Lamb is good. Just soo much to do with this roster and no one in charge really has the balls to do what's needed. 

So you don’t want good players to play for your team? I know everyone is in love with the 76erd tank show. And needlessly praise Zokc. But neither one has done anything of significance more than the Pacers. Philly is a disaster every year in the playoffs. AndOKC hasn’t been actually good for just as long as the Pacers. That just put a worse product on the court, outside of this year. This isn’t 2K 

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1 hour ago, KingPG21 said:

So you don’t want good players to play for your team? I know everyone is in love with the 76erd tank show. And needlessly praise Zokc. But neither one has done anything of significance more than the Pacers. Philly is a disaster every year in the playoffs. AndOKC hasn’t been actually good for just as long as the Pacers. That just put a worse product on the court, outside of this year. This isn’t 2K 

Yea I want to lose for a couple years and gain some talent. Rather than wasting money to try and hobble into a playoff spot. Philly went through their time but clearly found a franchise player in Embiid. You have to try and take what those organizations did and build. Like Golden State. Make good picks that will help and make very smart free agent signings. But you gotta lose for 2-3 years. The good thing right now, Pacers have the 5th, 23rd and 33rd picks. They are also shopping Rubio and Warrens contracts for more picks. They are going in the right direction with that. They just have to commit to it. And losing is part of that. 

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