Hanner Perea arrested

[eddiejames 25]

In the scheme of life, playing at IU of any college really isn't that big of a deal. It's 4 years of your life. I would consider myself a smart person who has been fairly successful in my career, and I know I did some DUMB DUMB DUMB stuff in college. Tons of people do, be made a mistake, he'll learn from it.


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No I completely get it.  But breaking the law and not having to answer for it is one thing, doing it while playing for a nationally recognized team is another.  You have to hold yourself to a higher standard if you are representing an entire athletic program with your actions.  I get he made a mistake, but he also agreed to follow a set of conduct rules set forth by the coaching staff.  I guess I'm in the minority when I say that this sort of thing shouldn't be tolerated, and he needs to be made an example out of.

[blwatson 2]

[quote name="IU Hoosier41" post="38292" timestamp="1392384512"]I bet you'd be surprised how many BtownBanners members have had run ins with the law, especially in college. This falls under boys will be boys & college kids do stupid thing. Wouldn't look to seriously into this being an ongoing issue. Crean is about to lay down Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners[/quote] I don't know about you but I've never been arrested, on or off and IU campus. This is a serious issue and needs to be dealt with in a serious manner. I would even suggest suspension for the remainder of the regular season Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[Hoosierboy1980 451]

[quote name="Rookie33" post="38306" timestamp="1392385667"]It's time for some Peter Jurkin... Things can't get much worse, so I say give him a shot.


Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners[/quote] That's hilarious.


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[LIHoosier 25,758]

My question is does he play Saturday? What if Hammons were to get Noah in foul trouble?

 

I'd be shocked if he plays Saturday.

 

No he won't see the court meaning we'll see the others we shouldn't see. 

If Crean lays the hammer down, he won't even make the trip up; at least until the matter is resolved and/or the facts are discerned.

Expect a good amount of zone if that's the case to try and keep Noah from getting into foul trouble and having to play Howard for a considerable length.

[HoosierReb01 7,511]

I have a bad feeling they will make example out of him. Bet he's gone. This is Indiana not Kentucky or UNC.


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First offense that I know as far as I know. That would be a over reaction if so. If CTC has had a history of problems with him as far as behavior, then I can see that. There is a time to make examples out of someone, but the seriousness of the offense, and the individuals history should play a part in that decision. I have no doubt he's going to get a suspension, and should. I hope we don't boot him just to prove we are not UK or UNC.

[Hovadipo 54,952]

[quote name="Rookie33" post="38306" timestamp="1392385667"]It's time for some Peter Jurkin... Things can't get much worse, so I say give him a shot.


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I was about to say the same thing.


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[HoosierReb01 7,511]

I don't know about you but I've never been arrested, on or off and IU campus. This is a serious issue and needs to be dealt with in a serious manner. I would even suggest suspension for the remainder of the regular season Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Fair question then. Have you lived your life in such a fashion that you should never have been arrested? If no, then the only difference is that you didn't get caught. Not getting caught is usually just a matter of a being a little bit smarter or having better luck then the guy that did. I don't think that anybodies arguing that its not serious, or that there will not be consequences, both legal, and university sanctioned. 

 

Just for full disclosure, I have been arrested, and I'll never hang my head for it. However, there are some things that I probably should have been arrested for, that I look back on and shake my head in disbelief that I ever was that stupid.

[BlueDevil 8,655]

I agree it's time to see what Peter has to offer. I want to see what our future is going to look like with him next year. Loved watching him in garbage time.

[HoosierReb01 7,511]

No I completely get it.  But breaking the law and not having to answer for it is one thing, doing it while playing for a nationally recognized team is another.  You have to hold yourself to a higher standard if you are representing an entire athletic program with your actions.  I get he made a mistake, but he also agreed to follow a set of conduct rules set forth by the coaching staff.  I guess I'm in the minority when I say that this sort of thing shouldn't be tolerated, and he needs to be made an example out of.

No, I don't think you are in the minority. I think a large majority here view this as serious and expect appropriate consequences. Obviously he's going to have to deal with the legal issues, but as a basketball player at IU, I would expect that he is also going to have to deal with corrective measures/punishment handed down by the athletic department/university. I think about everybody here expects that and accepts it as appropriate. Although there is probably a lot of disagreement as to what is appropriate here.

[Rayl 527]

I don't know about you but I've never been arrested, on or off and IU campus. This is a serious issue and needs to be dealt with in a serious manner. I would even suggest suspension for the remainder of the regular season

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For real? Being arrested does not mean he did anything wrong. Hanner has been arrested, not proven guilty. Cops make mistakes, even on DUIs.

Let's assume he did do it though. He'll be punished plenty by the legal system. Right now he's sitting in jail. If he's like most people in jail for the first time, he thinks his life is over and is thinking about how he'll never drink again. He will need the support of his teammates and the staff for that to happen.

Sure, make a statement about athletes being held to a higher standard or some such nonsense. Suspend him for a game or two. Anything more than that is unlikely to be helpful, is just piling on the punishment he will receive, and is probably counterproductive.

[FortWayneHoosier 5,898]

sucks that it takes something like this to get people to join the conversation, currently 1720 people viewing this. I hope he learns from his mistake, i know how it is, i screwed up big time when i was in the Marine Corps with drugs. It doesnt matter if hes an athlete, hes still a human being, we all make mistakes. 

[HoosierReb01 7,511]

sucks that it takes something like this to get people to join the conversation, currently 1720 people viewing this. I hope he learns from his mistake, i know how it is, i screwed up big time when i was in the Marine Corps with drugs. It doesnt matter if hes an athlete, hes still a human being, we all make mistakes. 

Lol. no kidding. We are about to set a record for most online at one time.

[blwatson 2]

[quote name="Rayl" post="38321" timestamp="1392387773"]For real? Being arrested does not mean he did anything wrong. Hanner has been arrested, not proven guilty. Cops make mistakes, even on DUIs.

Let's assume he did do it though. He'll be punished plenty by the legal system. Right now he's sitting in jail. If he's like most people in jail for the first time, he thinks his life is over and is thinking about how he'll never drink again. He will need the support of his teammates and the staff for that to happen.

Sure, make a statement about athletes being held to a higher standard or some such nonsense. Suspend him for a game or two. Anything more than that is unlikely to be helpful, is just piling on the punishment he will receive, and is probably counterproductive.[/quote]

Drinking and driving is a serious issue. I could care less about basketball when something like this happens. If he is found guilty, think about the damage he could have done. Killing himself or others do to a poor choice he made. I'm not saying I'm inhuman or haven't mistakes, but I've the damage of drinking and driving first hand.


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[HoosierReb01 7,511]

Lol. no kidding. We are about to set a record for most online at one time.

Oops, just did while I was posting that.

[Stuhoo 79,569]

For real? Being arrested does not mean he did anything wrong. Hanner has been arrested, not proven guilty. Cops make mistakes, even on DUIs.

Let's assume he did do it though. He'll be punished plenty by the legal system. Right now he's sitting in jail. If he's like most people in jail for the first time, he thinks his life is over and is thinking about how he'll never drink again. He will need the support of his teammates and the staff for that to happen.

Sure, make a statement about athletes being held to a higher standard or some such nonsense. Suspend him for a game or two. Anything more than that is unlikely to be helpful, is just piling on the punishment he will receive, and is probably counterproductive.

 

Athletes should not be, and often are not held to a higher standard legally. For that, the standard should be the same.

 

They are however held to a higher standard in that it is given that their indiscretions are aired publicly, and therein have a higher degree of embarrassment and fallout in public perception.

[MrYuk 208]

Drinking and driving is a serious issue. I could care less about basketball when something like this happens. If he is found guilty, think about the damage he could have done. Killing himself or others do to a poor choice he made. I'm not saying I'm inhuman or haven't mistakes, but I've the damage of drinking and driving first hand. <br /><br /><br />Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

there's not gonna be any "if he's found guilty" they have his BAC on record, he's guilty, they will make him pay a fine, and maybe some substance abuse classes, I had 2 DUIs in my younger years and they never made an issue of it and I live in one of the strictest counties in Indiana, I'm not condoning drinkin n drivin but he's a kid just hope he learns from his mistakes <br /><br /><br />

[Hovadipo 54,952]

So he got a Class A Misdemeanor for endangerment. After researching, that is (up to) one year in jail and (up to) a $5,000 fine. Not sure how these cases usually go, though.


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[mdn82 25,510]

Well, that blows.  See you next year Hanner. 

[Rayl 527]

Athletes should not be, and often are not held to a higher standard legally. For that, the standard should be the same.
 
They are however held to a higher standard in that it is given that their indiscretions are aired publicly, and therein have a higher degree of embarrassment and fallout in public perception.

Sure, and that added embarrassment makes it less likely he will become a repeat offender. But if you take everything away from him, you make it more likely he does it again. The kid needs support and structure. He needs to stay with the team.

If you punish him too harshly, you aren't helping him or the program. Let's be honest. Hanner is the guy who got caught. He's not the first guy on the team to do it and he won't be the last. You can't punish him for the sake of punishment and expect to keep good team morale and chemistry.

This can be a growing lesson for the entire team if Cream handles it well. Or, he can just punish Hanner to send a message that won't actually do any good. I'd rather the team learn and grow from this.

[KingPG21 6,582]

Not a good sign. I understand college kids will be kids but really? Aren't athletes held to a higher standard??


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I don't get how that is entirely fair that athletes should be held to a higher standard because they are playing a sport and just happen to be good at it. They are still human, they shouldn't  be thought of less than someone else who has committed the same offense.