(2014) SF Josh Cunningham to Bradley

[Baltimore Hoosier 986]

[quote name="scottybower" post="60002" timestamp="1397608457"]As an Indiana fan, I understand that 3 McDAA's and 10 ESPN 100 recruits in 3 years is a pretty good track record. We've won significant recruiting battles against programs with much more success. With JBJ we won against UK, UM, MSU and KU. Rojo: UNC. Vonleh: Cuse, UConn, GTown, UNC, OSU, KU. Troy: UNC, UL, OSU. Yogi: Butler and Florida. Let's weigh our successes against our defeats. I'd still say we've come out on top. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners[/quote]

^This

Crean has done a great job of recruiting.. He landed Zeller after winning 12 games the season before. He picked up Vonleh, and now JBJ. All three of these guys were heavily recruited by several high major programs.. When people knock Crean's recruiting prowess, it doesn't really make sense to me.


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[Bowhunter 2,873]

IS JOSH still announcing tomorrow?

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

[quote name="Bowhunter" post="60004" timestamp="1397609767"]IS JOSH still announcing tomorrow?[/quote] I heard that he's planning a visit to St. Mary's of the Poor College and is pushing his decision back again.


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[Bowhunter 2,873]

I heard that he's planning a visit to St. Mary's of the Poor College and is pushing his decision back again.


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Seriously Scotty!  :rtfm:

[CottageGrove 563]

IS JOSH still announcing tomorrow?

 

I thought it was the 18th, not the 16th.

[KingPG21 6,587]

Who else? You can't be talking about Marcus Lee and Trevor Thompson. Ohio State has been the better program, both recently and for their entire lifetimes. Matta has put several big men in the league and he's an excellent coach/recruiter. Not even close to the same thing as Cunningham considering Bradley. 

I think you mean Anthony Lee

[djsalway 4,161]

His announcement is Friday.

[Bowhunter 2,873]

His announcement is Friday.

That's right.. I was thinking about his last announcement that was supposed to be on a Wednesday.

[8bucks 6,857]

[quote name="Baltimore Hoosier" post="60003" timestamp="1397608783"]^This Crean has done a great job of recruiting.. He landed Zeller after winning 12 games the season before. He picked up Vonleh, and now JBJ. All three of these guys were heavily recruited by several high major programs.. When people knock Crean's recruiting prowess, it doesn't really make sense to me. But he also recruited Jurkin, HP, Patterson, Jeremy, Luke, Remy, Austin Crean can land some really big gets. He has also landed a good share of guys that did not work out here. Since he seems to recruit everyone he probably has more whiffs than the average coach. I do not think he is a terrible recruiter just based on the examples you gave but I don't think he is a great recruiter because he has had too many misses. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners[/quote] Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[WindyCitySource 600]

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You can say that about any coach. Crean wasn't the only person going after the guys you mentioned. Ron Patteron is at Syracuse... is Boeheim a bad recruiter too? Jeremy had OSU in his final five. Luke Fischer could have gone to Marquette (where he ended up anyways) and I'm sure if he stayed uncommitted longer he would have been offered by Wisconsin too. Plus he is a good player and that was a great recruiting win for Crean. It's not Crean's fault that Fischer got homesick and bailed. 

[JSHoosier 21,326]

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He also recruited Bawa Muniru.  I'd say he's a good, not great, recruiter.

[NotTheReal HoosierHoopster 67]

Crean probably needs to build his team on three and four year players who fit his system. If a one and done 5 star wants to come then fine but im tired of this massive turnover every damn year due to early entries and transfers. Its really getting old and does not allow the team to have a program feel to it.

[Hovadipo 58,858]

[quote name="Hoosier Hoopster" post="60041" timestamp="1397627069"]Crean probably needs to build his team on three and four year players who fit his system. If a one and done 5 star wants to come then fine but im tired of this massive turnover every damn year due to early entries and transfers. Its really getting old and does not allow the team to have a program feel to it.[/quote]

This is the first year we've had massive turnover due to transfers (unless you count year one; I don't). We've never had a problem with early entries. "Every damn year" is a little bit extreme.


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[CampHoosier 3,697]

He also recruited Bawa Muniru.  I'd say he's a good, not great, recruiter.

 

That was also when no one wanted to be here...

[WindyCitySource 600]

He also recruited Bawa Muniru.  I'd say he's a good, not great, recruiter.

 

So did Rick Pitino, Travis Ford, Matt Painter, Mark Gottfried, Mike Anderson, Jeff Capel, Jeff Lebo and many others. 

 

Not to mention that all the recruiting services thought he would be better than he was, too. Rivals had him as #112 overall in the class! Ahead of productive college players like Mike Bruesewitz, Lamar Patterson, Joseph Bertrand, Brandon Triche, Scott Wood, Khris Middleton (he's in the NBA!) and more. 

[8bucks 6,857]

[quote name="CampCrean" post="60056" timestamp="1397652274"]That was also when no one wanted to be here...[/quote]

That is why my list only included kids since 2012. Even since then Crean has been good not great. He certainly puts in a lot of time and energy though. You cannot hit on them all, I understand that but the list of misses is longer than the list of great recruits.


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[CampHoosier 3,697]

That is why my list only included kids since 2012. Even since then Crean has been good not great. He certainly puts in a lot of time and energy though. You cannot hit on them all, I understand that but the list of misses is longer than the list of great recruits.


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Let's break that down

 

Hits:

CWat

Creek

Oladipo

Roth

Zeller

Hulls

Williams

Robinson

Vonleh

Sheehey

Blackmon

Johnson

Yogi

Devin Davis

Tijan Jobe

 

 

Misses:

Capobianco

Bawa Muniru

Guy

Jurkin

HMP

Hollowell

Hartman

[Hovadipo 58,858]

[quote name="CampCrean" post="60090" timestamp="1397662760"]Let's break that down

Hits:
CWat
Creek
Oladipo
Roth
Zeller
Hulls
Williams
Robinson
Vonleh
Sheehey
Blackmon
Johnson
Yogi
Devin Davis
Tijan Jobe


Misses:
Capobianco
Bawa Muniru
Guy
Jurkin
HMP
Hollowell
Hartman[/quote]

Agree with this list besides Hartman. No one ACTUALLY expected him to contribute last year right? Wait until his Junior season until jumping to call him a miss.


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[Stuhoo 84,611]

Let's break that down

 

Hits:

CWat

Creek

Oladipo

Roth

Zeller

Hulls

Williams

Robinson

Vonleh

Sheehey

Blackmon

Johnson

Yogi

Devin Davis

Tijan Jobe

 

 

Misses:

Capobianco

Bawa Muniru

Guy

Jurkin

HMP

Hollowell

Hartman

 

Nice list!

 

Two minor addendums for me:

 

1)  Matt Roth cannot be a CTC recruit; believe he was signed before CTC was hired.

 

2) Hanner is not yet a miss, and for our sake, he better not be considered one by the end of next season!

 

Also, it's hard to call PJ a miss and Mo Creek a hit when both are great kids who never got to perform because of injuries.

[Hutch89 2,946]

Tijan Jobe, almost forgot about that guy.  

and that's a good list, i'd agree that HMP is not yet a miss.  We'll see soon enough.