Jet812 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 4 minutes ago, AH1971 said: Did Florida or UConn fire their coaches after their first year or two? Put them on any kind of hot seat? You're kind of making my point. Who has stated he should be fired after one year? You have disingenuously avoided that question yet again… Quote
AH1971 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 1 minute ago, Stuhoo said: I see plenty of people stating that making the tourney the first year is their minimum expectation, but I don't see anyone stating that the consequence for not doing so should be to fire Devries after one year. Because nobody on this board has the authority to do so lol. But I've read plenty of posts, today alone, that suggest the process should begin in the event the tournament is missed next year. You don't have to outright say it to imply it, Stu. Quote
IUCrazy2 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 1 hour ago, rayl456 said: That’s certainly an opinion alright. :) We all have em. rayl456 1 Quote
Home Jersey Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 1 minute ago, Stuhoo said: You are arguing against... no one. I see plenty of people stating that making the tourney the first year is their minimum expectation, but I don't see anyone stating that the consequence for not doing so should be to fire Devries after one year. Right, just that he will lose the fanbase after one (1) bad year in his first year here. Like that’s indicative the entire hire was bad. If the recourse is more disappointed fans that’s hardly a change from the past decade. I expect to make the tournament. If we don’t I’m not going to pout and sulk about how we’re stuck for another 3 years at least. IU fans haven’t watched a winner being built since Knight in the 70s/80s. People moping that we should be better and fans need to express their discontent won’t make things any better. The fact we are having this conversation at all after a relatively hot start in the portal just goes to show how bad IU fans PTSD has become. jermhoosierfan 1 Quote
AH1971 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 1 minute ago, Jet812 said: Who has stated he should be fired after one year? You have disingenuously avoided that question yet again… I've already responded to that question earlier today, and quoted the posts that I interpreted to have that meaning. This thread is 4 pages long and something you should easily be able to navigate. Quote
IUCrazy2 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 1 hour ago, Scotty R said: So would a coach get fired after 5 years of this. Make the tournament every year but never gets past the sweet 16 No Quote
Jet812 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 Just now, AH1971 said: I've already responded to that question earlier today, and quoted the posts that I interpreted to have that meaning. This thread is 4 pages long and something you should easily be able to navigate. “You interpreted?” Lol. I interpret your response as “I am dead wrong & got nuthin’, but I’m gonna argue anyway.” No one has said, or implied he should be fired after a subpar first seasons, you should stop doubling down on an obviously false premise. Scotty R 1 Quote
iu eyedoc Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 40 minutes ago, Jet812 said: We don’t know what they’d have done because it didn’t happen - that’s the point. What’s the recourse? Disappointment. Can you cite anyone on this board, in any thread suggesting he be fired after year one? Well there is one guy that has already declared that he is not a top 50-60 coach if they don't make the tourney next season. Would you expect IU to just ride with a bottom of the barrel P4 coach? Quote
AH1971 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 Just now, Jet812 said: “You interpreted?” Lol. I interpret your response as “I am dead wrong & got nuthin’, but I’m gonna argue anyway.” No one has said, or implied he should be fired after a subpar first seasons, you should stop doubling down on an obviously false premise. Or you can just simply go back and read page 1...either way works for me. Quote
Stuhoo Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 3 minutes ago, AH1971 said: Because nobody on this board has the authority to do so lol. But I've read plenty of posts, today alone, that suggest the process should begin in the event the tournament is missed next year. You don't have to outright say it to imply it, Stu. 100% true that you don't have to outright say it to imply it. And I have no doubt that if the first year goes badly, some of the 'less patient' fans will outright say it, or at least strongly imply it. But for now? I don't see anyone saying or implying that a bad first year is cause for termination. Jet812 1 Quote
IUCrazy2 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 13 minutes ago, AH1971 said: Did Florida or UConn fire their coaches after their first year or two? Put them on any kind of hot seat? You're kind of making my point. Hurley was on a hotter seat going into year 3. Quote
Jet812 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 1 minute ago, iu eyedoc said: Well there is one guy that has already declared that he is not a top 50-60 coach if they don't make the tourney next season. A far cry from suggesting they be fired, & if they can name coaches ahead of him & make an argument for their case about his “ranking”, then so be it, he may be right. Quote
AH1971 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 Just now, IUCrazy2 said: Hurley was on a hotter seat going into year 3. No he wasn't lol, he didn't start to feel the heat until after his 4th season when he hadn't yet won a tournament game. Stop it. Quote
CSP Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 play fast, play modern, continue to improve..... FFS someone have a little passion and not just when you're playing Purdue in front of 17k...... more of an understanding of the "next" play Fans to stop critiquing lineups, subs---- I know, I know how could I, but it's annoying to read. Quote
Jet812 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 5 minutes ago, AH1971 said: Or you can just simply go back and read page 1...either way works for me. I did, no one says or implies it in any way, shape, or form, but go ahead & double down… Quote
rayl456 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 14 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: We all have em. Yes, sir. No argument here. :) Quote
IUCrazy2 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 7 minutes ago, AH1971 said: No he wasn't lol, he didn't start to feel the heat until after his 4th season when he hadn't yet won a tournament game. Stop it. Define hot seat. His team's Twitter people were starting to chatter like what happens with IU. That was the seat getting warmer. He was able to shut it down with the next few years results. Quote
iu eyedoc Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 1 minute ago, Jet812 said: A far cry from suggesting they be fired, & if they can name coaches ahead of him & make an argument for their case about his “ranking”, then so be it, he may be right. Because saying that is obviously ignorant. So, by declaring the HC is patently a bad HC if he doesn't make the tourney, the year in which he has to piece together the entire roster, is a way to say he is not and will not be the guy without saying it. There is no way IU is just going to ride along with a 50-60th level HC for years, so ipso facto if he doesn't make the tourney he should be fired. Quote
AH1971 Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 Just now, IUCrazy2 said: Define hot seat. His team's Twitter people were starting to chatter like what happens with IU. That was the seat getting warmer. He was able to shut it down with the next few years results. Being in danger or jeopardy of losing one's job. That simply did not apply to Hurley after his first two seasons. Quote
iu eyedoc Posted April 22, 2025 Posted April 22, 2025 2 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: Define hot seat. His team's Twitter people were starting to chatter like what happens with IU. That was the seat getting warmer. He was able to shut it down with the next few years results. Twitter people = hot seat. LTFOL Home Jersey 1 Quote
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