IUBB vs Rutgers - 03/02/22 @ 7:00 on BTN

[Chris007 61,982]

1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I don’t know what your deleted post quoting me said, but I enjoy the good times. There just haven’t been very many. The highlight of the past 6 years or so was probably Romeo’s commitment day. That day was a lot of fun. Tons of hope for the future. Since then, every year has been the same. The season starts out well and then we collapse in February. It’s Groundhog Day. 

Your taking Romeo committing to us over Rob hitting a game-winning shot to beat Purdue who had beaten us like 9 times in a row as the best moment of the last 6 years? Interesting

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On 3/3/2022 at 11:52 AM, Rico said:

Or we would be beaching about why Tamar played so much?  lol

 

On 3/3/2022 at 11:57 AM, Hovadipo said:

Maybe. At least it would be a new complaint.

A new complaint? Let me post it about 100 times in every thread thread then!

[Hoosierfan2017 24,699]

10 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Your taking Romeo committing to us over Rob hitting a game-winning shot to beat Purdue who had beaten us like 9 times in a row as the best moment of the last 6 years? Interesting

Absolutely. Beating Purdue was a great moment, but it was just that - a moment. It was fun to enjoy, but the program was still what it is. As I added to my previous post, good moments like the Purdue game are harder to enjoy these days because there’s the lingering “the collapse is coming” feeling. And here, the high of the Purdue game was short-lived as we got blown out at home by a mediocre Michigan team three days later. 

Romeo was the #7 recruit in the country. He was the finishing touch on the #10 recruiting class in the country and the #2 class in the B1G. We thought we had a great young coach in Archie. The future looked incredibly promising. It was the best I’ve felt about IU basketball between the 2016 sweet 16 run and today. 

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2 hours ago, Chris007 said:

Your taking Romeo committing to us over Rob hitting a game-winning shot to beat Purdue who had beaten us like 9 times in a row as the best moment of the last 6 years? Interesting

Any day we beat Purdon't is a great day in Indiana basketball.  Even when we owned their sorry arses.  

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2 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Absolutely. Beating Purdue was a great moment, but it was just that - a moment. It was fun to enjoy, but the program was still what it is. As I added to my previous post, good moments like the Purdue game are harder to enjoy these days because there’s the lingering “the collapse is coming” feeling. And here, the high of the Purdue game was short-lived as we got blown out at home by a mediocre Michigan team three days later. 

Romeo was the #7 recruit in the country. He was the finishing touch on the #10 recruiting class in the country and the #2 class in the B1G. We thought we had a great young coach in Archie. The future looked incredibly promising. It was the best I’ve felt about IU basketball between the 2016 sweet 16 run and today. 

And then Archie crapped the bed.  Set the program back years.  

But I agree with you.  It was "Miller Time."   We had our proven coach who could take back to the promised land.  Unfortunately, he was such a dude.  And it just goes to prove, finding that right coach is kinda hard.  

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6 hours ago, Hoosier Guy said:

You and I are in agreement in terms of expectations for the program. IU should be elite with all the factors they have around them.  There’s no reason IU shouldn’t get back to elite status

What does IU have that is better than other power 5 conference teams have. Everybody has facilities that are top notch and most have passionate fan bases.  To me the difference now to when we were a dominant program is the recruiting landscape. When RMK was in his prime,  recruiting was more regional so we were able to get a lot of the top Midwest kids. In his 3 championship teams 13-15 starters came from Indiana, Illinois and Ohio.  Today with AAU basketball and a lot of top kids going to prep school kids will leave their home area more today.  Also with so many different broadcast stations covering college basketball, the kids family can watch any game they play no matter where they play.

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6 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

90% of free team message boards is going to be filled with people that are going to take an optimistic approach.  Just the way it is.  Most people probably don’t want to spend their free time on a board and being negative.  Doesn’t make it right or wrong it’s just the way it is going to go down.   If someone want to be optimistic or even blindly optimistic that’s their choice just like if someone wants to come on here and be negative that’s their choice but they should know going in that they will be in the minority.   You posted the numbers everyone sees and knows where IU is as a program it’s just different posters have different ways with coping with this.   Some deal with it by positing about being optimistic about the future despite on court results, some minimize the importance of what IU basketball means to them and let’s people know that apathy has set in,   some hold on to the past and are optimistic  that with the right coaching change things will change despite 20 years of mediocrity and some are just tired of being mediocre and come here and vent.   No wrong answer.   We as a fan base are all in the some position with being invested in a program that isn’t where any of us want it.   Only difference is how each poster copes with that fact 

Being positive towards things is a lot better way to live your life over only seeing the negative things in life.

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3 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I'm a blind loyalty type of guy. I will always think IU is going to be good. I will think the glass is half full each time and be overly positive. It's good to have different types of people though. I have always thought you can start each day by being positive or negative, I prefer positive. 

That is how I am, I rather was bad IU basketball than no IU basketball at all.  My favorite time in tbe year is from Nov.- April because of college basketball. After the season is over it is like I have withdrawal and wishing for IU basketball.  Like everyone on here who is a fan of IU basketball I want IU to get back to what they were like when I was growing up.  By the time I was 17 I had seen 3 national championship teams and thought it was our right to be the best in college basketball.  I would say our fan base was really spoiled during those years and now we act like spoiled brats because we are no longer elite.

[Hoosierfan2017 24,699]

11 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

That is how I am, I rather was bad IU basketball than no IU basketball at all.  My favorite time in tbe year is from Nov.- April because of college basketball. After the season is over it is like I have withdrawal and wishing for IU basketball.  Like everyone on here who is a fan of IU basketball I want IU to get back to what they were like when I was growing up.  By the time I was 17 I had seen 3 national championship teams and thought it was our right to be the best in college basketball.  I would say our fan base was really spoiled during those years and now we act like spoiled brats because we are no longer elite.

I really wish there was an eye roll reaction. Those darn spoiled brat IU fans and their anger toward not making the tournament since 2016 and only making it four times since 2008. They need to get over it and accept their rightful position as a below average Big 10 team. 

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1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I really wish there was an eye roll reaction. Those darn spoiled brat IU fans and their anger toward not making the tournament since 2016 and only making it four times since 2008. They need to get over it and accept their rightful position as a below average Big 10 team. 

Never said that but how we react to losses and how some of the fans treat players on social media is horrible.  I have said for years this fan base is a huge asset but can be a huge detriment to the program as well.

[Hoosierfan2017 24,699]

35 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Never said that but how we react to losses and how some of the fans treat players on social media is horrible.  I have said for years this fan base is a huge asset but can be a huge detriment to the program as well.

You said “now we act like spoiled brats because we are no longer elite.” IU fans are incredibly mild compared to how fans of Kentucky, Duke, etc. would act if they went through 20 years like we just have. They would burn Rupp Arena to the ground.

Frankly, the fanbase is the best thing the program has going for it at this point 20 years of extreme mediocrity yet fans keep showing up.

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11 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

You said “now we act like spoiled brats because we are no longer elite.” IU fans are incredibly mild compared to how fans of Kentucky, Duke, etc. would act if they went through 20 years like we just have. They would burn Rupp Arena to the ground.

Frankly, the fanbase is the best thing the program has going for it at this point 20 years of extreme mediocrity yet fans keep showing up.

Kentucky wouldn't let it get anywhere near 20.

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24 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

You said “now we act like spoiled brats because we are no longer elite.” IU fans are incredibly mild compared to how fans of Kentucky, Duke, etc. would act if they went through 20 years like we just have. They would burn Rupp Arena to the ground.

Frankly, the fanbase is the best thing the program has going for it at this point 20 years of extreme mediocrity yet fans keep showing up.

Never want IU to be like UK in any way

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12 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Kentucky wouldn't let it get anywhere near 20.

Well we have had 6 coaches, 4 AD's and 4 presidents in that time.  Do we have made chang after change and that hasn't worked.  Also fans really have no say on who the coach is so it doesn't matter if we stand for it or not.

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10 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Well we have had 6 coaches, 4 AD's and 4 presidents in that time.  Do we have made chang after change and that hasn't worked.  Also fans really have no say on who the coach is so it doesn't matter if we stand for it or not.

And we fired the best coach we've had since RMK because he used his phone too much....

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2 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

And we fired the best coach we've had since RMK because he used his phone too much....

He was fired for more than that.  He was already on probation and did the same crime again.  Also the type of kids he brought in shod be grounds for a firing.  We had drug dealers and pimps on that team

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4 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

And we fired the best coach we've had since RMK because he used his phone too much....

He was an idiot. Part of being good at anything is understanding where you are and what is expected. Sampson clearly either didn't understand or didn't care. The team he put together, outside of a few guys, was hard for me to root for. He definitely knows how to coach, I'll give him that. But the other nonsense was unnecessary and unacceptable.

[HoosierX 1,764]

3 hours ago, IU Scott said:

Never said that but how we react to losses and how some of the fans treat players on social media is horrible.  I have said for years this fan base is a huge asset but can be a huge detriment to the program as well.

Yes you say it over and over again. And honestly, you don’t have the first clue what you’re talking about.

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6 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

Yes you say it over and over again. And honestly, you don’t have the first clue what you’re talking about.

I think our fans are part of the reason we don't get better candidates for when we have a coaching opening.  Why would any successful power 5 conference coach leave to come here. If they come here and don't turn it around year one then some of the fan base starts calling for your head.  Also I think how our fans treat the players on the team you say you love is a problem with recruiting.  If you are successful and have fans like that then recruits will over look it but right now we are not successful.

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Just now, IU Scott said:

I think our fans are part of the reason we don't get better candidates for when we have a coaching opening.  Why would any successful power 5 conference coach leave to come here. If they come here and don't turn it around year one then some of the fan base starts calling for your head.  Also I think how our fans treat the players on the team you say you love is a problem with recruiting.  If you are successful and have fans like that then recruits will over look it but right now we are not successful.

The problem with your line of thinking is that very likely, our fan base in terms of bad actors is really no different than others. If there are more of them, it’s simply because we have more fans. And yet other programs with large fanbases manage to be successful even though they have crazies on twitter too. Your issue, I would guess, is that you are mostly only exposed to our fanbase, so you think it is an IU problem. Statistically the idea that the personalities within our fanbase on a per capita basis is that different than others when you’re talking a population size of hundreds of thousands is just not very likely.