Hoosierfan2017

Malik looks clueless out there and Banks/Gunn are freshmen who never see the floor. Next year’s team loses Xavier, TJD, and Race. Absent Woody having a field day in the transfer portal, there’s zero chance the offense is better next year. CJ Gunn is 2-16 from 3 this year. 12.5%. Calling him a shooter, let alone counting on him to be a big reason for our team being better after losing all the players we’re losing, is a gigantic reach. Woody can’t put together a good offense now. No reason to believe he’d put together a better one after losing his best offensive players.

Scott wants IU fans to be satisfied with perpetual mediocrity and not raise a fuss about it. His “it’s the fans fault” take is asinine. The fanbase is the best, and only constant, thing the program has going for it. The fans still show up and show out even when the team routinely fails to do so.

This thread is what the youngsters call satire, Scott.

Because some of us don’t see them as upgrades, or at the very least, not big enough upgrades for it to matter. What makes the Clemson WR a clear upgrade over DJ Matthews? Matthews had better stats playing in the same conference before coming to IU. Williams has 16 catches for 136 yards and 0 touchdowns over the past two seasons. We used to have receivers who could do that in one game. Fryfogle exceeded that 3 different times in 2020. They were mediocre backups at their prior schools and are now coming to catch passes from worse quarterbacks and run behind worse offensive lines.

The Stanford kid was a backup on a 3-9 team. The Clemson kid had 7 catches for 70 yards in 13 games this season. 9 catches for 66 yards in 8 games in 2021. If that’s our “flat-out home run pickup,” yikes.. And the Wake Forest kid had 516 yards on 4.0 yards per carry. Those are Shaun Shivers numbers. We’re rearranging chairs on the Titanic and still have no one to play QB next year.

Lots of teams deal with injuries. Our 2016 team last a starter and went on to win the conference. Last night was the first time we were down two starters. We were thoroughly dominated by Arizona, Kansas and Rutgers down one starter. It’s a convenient excuse, but it’s just that. Some teams rise to to the challenge when they face adversity. Other teams fail. Which will this team do?

He played 40 minutes and scored 30 points. If you extrapolate out the 7 he scored in 10 minutes against Race, that’s 28 points. Maybe we win with Race, who knows. Blowing big leads is something we’ve done with Race playing too. It’s interesting how fast we’ve gone from “we’re so stacked, we have so much depth” to “well how can you expect us to win with all these injuries.” Yeah, injuries are hurting us. They’re hurting us because we don’t have depth and don’t have guys who can fill in for our injured players.

Race played 10 minutes last night my friend. So, Murray scored 7 points in 10 minutes against Race then? That’s not the best defense..

By golly two transfers?!?! I take back everything I said about our 2-16 conference record.

IU basketball tends to follow a pattern. We hire a new coach. There’s a lot of excitement. Everyone thinks we hired the guy who will turn around the program. The coach recruits pretty well to start. Then we struggle on the court. Recruiting slows down. We suck. We buy out the coach. Rinse, repeat. Which stage are we in with Woody? This year was supposed to be our big year with next year being our down year. Big 10 championship talk for this year. We certainly don’t look like a contender right now. Recruiting isn’t going well. We have the #36 recruiting class at the moment with only two commits - #70 and #93. No bigs and no shooting in the class. Woodson’s highs may be a little higher than Archie’s, and his lows not quite as low , but I don’t think he’ll peak as high as Crean. Time will tell.

At some point we need the promise to come through in his performance. The guy’s halfway through his junior year and gets lost like a freshman on the court. At some point you have to wonder if he just is what he is.

-18 in 18 minutes in a 2 point loss, so we were +20 in the 22 minutes he sat on the bench. Yikes. He looks more lost than ever out there right now.

Football and men’s basketball are the two key sports programs. We stink at both. Football team went 2-16 in the conference over the past two years. Our players are leaving in droves for greener pastures. Men’s basketball has finished higher than 9th in the conference once since 2016, and higher than 6th zero times. 1 tournament win during that period, and that was in a play-in game. And injuries are just an excuse. Before the season our “great depth” was all the rage.

Doesn’t matter because the administration is content being a mediocre sports school so long as the money keeps coming in. We turn a profit, and that’s what matters to them. It’s a lot easier to accept mediocrity than it is to put in the effort to be great.

It’s just a matter of time before our players take to social media and talk about how this is a minor setback for a big comeback or something along those lines.

IU wouldn’t hire him before he was arrested lol. And we’re the same school that dropped a nuke on ourselves for making too many phone calls. IU wouldn’t touch him in a million years.

Oh yeah. With the way they recycle head coaches in the NBA, the fact no one hired him between 2014 and 2021 says a lot. Leave it to IU.

Everything the program does off the court is mediocre, so it’s no surprise when we get mediocre results on it as well. Hiring a 63 year old with no college experience, a 46% winning percentage in the NBA, and no head coaching experience in nearly a decade said everything that needed to be said about the IU administration. It was a feel good story, but the warm fuzzies go away real quick when you’re not producing.

Terrible coaching down the stretch, but *insert comment on how hard it is to win on the road in the B1G*

Knowing IU, it’s for 24 sports 1 team. I’d be shocked if it’s anything but that.

During the broadcast the announcers said the teams would get 5 minutes before starting the game back up.

Yes. The SEC and Big 10 are steps ahead of the rest. The Big 12 sucks. KSU won the conference and they’re getting murked by Bama.

They really should’ve put Bama in the playoff instead of TCU.

You mean Vic didn’t threaten to transfer, show up late to the bus, and complain about his role? Lol. I feel like anytime there’s an athletic but raw guy the Vic comparisons come out, but players like Vic are a rare breed.

Yeah, there’s really nothing at all to suggest he would suddenly go from a career 29% three point to a 34% shooter if he took more shots. Usually the inverse happens - your percentage drops the more you take, and that’s exactly what’s happened with him. He went from 40% on 0.5 attempts per game to 31% on 0.9 attempts per game to 15% on 1.1 attempts per game. He’s made 2 threes all year. He made 9 threes all of last year. It doesn’t matter if his form looks nice if he doesn’t make them. Just look at Rob Phinisee.