College Football Thread

[HoosierAloha]

On 10/7/2018 at 7:18 AM, Hoosier Guy said:

If Notre Dame wins out, they’re in the playoff. It hurts typing that

If they win out they'll be in for sure.  If Ohio State wins out they'll be in.  Clemson will be in if they win out. A few $EC teams will be in regardless if they win out.  Most likely, one of O$U, ND, or Clemson will lose and the other two will get in with two from the $EC.

[Hoosier Guy]

34 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

If they win out they'll be in for sure.  If Ohio State wins out they'll be in.  Clemson will be in if they win out. A few $EC teams will be in regardless if they win out.  Most likely, one of O$U, ND, or Clemson will lose and the other two will get in with two from the $EC.

If both Alabama and Georgia are unbeaten heading into the SEC Championship game, then both should get in the playoff. That’s not a debate

[JHoosier914]

If Notre Dame wins out, they’re in the playoff. It hurts typing that

ND has a pretty weak schedule going forward. I personally think they need someone to lose during the regular season to get in, with the exception of OSU going undefeated until the championship game and then losing. If Alabama, OSU, Clemson and Georgia win out (regardless of which loses in the SEC championship between ‘Bama and Georgia)—there’s your CFP.


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[HoosierAloha]

ND has a pretty weak schedule going forward. I personally think they need someone to lose during the regular season to get in, with the exception of OSU going undefeated until the championship game and then losing. If Alabama, OSU, Clemson and Georgia win out (regardless of which loses in the SEC championship between ‘Bama and Georgia)—there’s your CFP.


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How would you compare Norte Dame's schedule to Clemson? If ND and Clemson both win out who would you take?


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[JHoosier914]

How would you compare Norte Dame's schedule to Clemson? If ND and Clemson both win out who would you take?


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They have a pretty easy schedule as well, with their toughest two games seemingly being the next two weeks until the championship game. What gives the nod to Clemson (again, assuming they both win out) is the championship game against Miami


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[JHoosier914]

They have a pretty easy schedule as well, with their toughest two games seemingly being the next two weeks until the championship game. What gives the nod to Clemson (again, assuming they both win out) is the championship game against Miami


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To the last question, I would take whom I consider to be the four BEST teams in ncaa — Bama, OSU, Georgia and West Virginia (but we all know that won’t happen unless other teams lose at bad times)


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[JHoosier914]

Oh wow. Didn’t mean to quote my own post


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[HoosierAloha]

23 minutes ago, JHoosier914 said:

They have a pretty easy schedule as well, with their toughest two games seemingly being the next two weeks until the championship game. What gives the nod to Clemson (again, assuming they both win out) is the championship game against Miami


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Notre Dame:

• #14 Michigan
• Ball State
• Vandy
• @ Wake Forest
• #7 Stanford
• @ Virginia Tech
• Pitt
• Navy
• @ Northwestern
• Florida State
• Syracuse
• @ USC

Clemson

• Furman
• @ Texas A&M
• Georgia Southern
• @ Georgia Tech
• Syracuse
• @ Wake
• #20 NC State
• @ Florida State
• Louisville
• @ Boston College
• Duke
• South Carolina

I just don't see it.  The Miami game would definitely be a solid win for them but I'm not sure it's tipping the scales for me.  The wins against South Carolina and @ Texas A&M would be good wins too but I'm not sure it would be enough.  I think Notre Dames top end opponents would be collectively better than what Clemson would have faced.  

 

[Hoosier Guy]

Clemson has to hope that Texas A&M and Miami keep winning games. Outside of those games, their schedule doesn’t look too good. And it’s not even a guarantee that Clemson will get the chance to play Miami

[JHoosier914]

Notre Dame:

• #14 Michigan
• Ball State
• Vandy
• @ Wake Forest
• #7 Stanford
• @ Virginia Tech
• Pitt
• Navy
• @ Northwestern
• Florida State
• Syracuse
• @ USC

Clemson

• Furman
• @ Texas A&M
• Georgia Southern
• @ Georgia Tech
• Syracuse
• @ Wake
• #20 NC State
• @ Florida State
• Louisville
• @ Boston College
• Duke
• South Carolina

I just don't see it.  The Miami game would definitely be a solid win for them but I'm not sure it's tipping the scales for me.  The wins against South Carolina and @ Texas A&M would be good wins too but I'm not sure it would be enough.  I think Notre Dames top end opponents would be collectively better than what Clemson would have faced.    

 

I know we can all make data show what we want, but take a look at their schedules with opponents FPI and RPI, below respectively. Of course, these are fluid values that change week to week, so I’m JUST sharing to show how similar the overall body of work seems with numbers attached. Even with Furman having a terrible RPI, Clemson’s average RPI opponent wasn’t too far from Notre Dame and their FPI is a slightly better average. Add in a championship game against either a Miami or Virginia Tech (assuming Clemson wins ACC title game) forms my opinion that an undefeated Clemson would get in over an undefeated Notre Dame.

 

NOTRE DAME SCHEDULE (FPI/RPI)

Michigan 6/16

Ball St 105/125

Vandy 62/54

Wake 68/53

Stanford 20/20

VTech 34/40

Pitt 72/79

Navy 101/96

NW 42/65

Fla St 52/84

Cuse 45/43

USC 37/44

 

FPI Avg - 53.7

RPI Avg - 59.9

 

CLEMSON SCHEDULE (FPI/RPI)

Furman NA/184

TAMU 18/24

Ga Southern 76/47

GTech 38/75

Cuse 45/43

Wake 68/53

NC State 29/15

Fla St 52/84

UofL 92/107

BC 39/56

Duke 33/36

South Carolina 30/28

 

FPI Avg - 47.3

RPI Avg - 62.7

 

 

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[KingPG21]

I might be proven wrong later today, but Washington has done nothing to earn being ranked 7th in the nation. They lost to a mediocre Auburn team, and beat a BYU team that is fine, not good, but fine. I could seem them getting blasted by Oregon

[LIHoosier]

Nebraska is threatening to win but NW is an XP from tying the game.

[LIHoosier]

Pitt up 2 at ND with 7 minutes left

[HoosierAloha]

Didn't expect to see LSU blank Georgia in the first half

[biteoftheapple]

I think LSU has pounded the final nail, 25-9 with 7+ mins.

[KingPG21]

Hey, icing the kicker actually worked in the Oregon-Washington game. 

 

Really hope Oregon finds a way to win; Washington is gonna get smacked around and lose by 40 against Bama if they made the college football playoffs

[KingPG21]

13 minutes ago, KingPG21 said:

Hey, icing the kicker actually worked in the Oregon-Washington game. 

 

Really hope Oregon finds a way to win; Washington is gonna get smacked around and lose by 40 against Bama if they made the college football playoffs

Thank you Oregon

[LIHoosier]

Michigan St scores with 20 seconds left and beats Penn St on the road 21-17. According to the nitwit calling the game on BTN, it was as big an upset as the Miracle on Ice.

[HoosierAloha]

Wow, some crazy games today.  LSU dominates Georgia (no worries, they'll still find a way to get a second $EC team into the playoffs).  Penn State slips up at home to MSU after MSU lost to Northwestern at home.  Northwestern almost loses to a terrible Nebraska team.

[KingPG21]

1 minute ago, HoosierAloha said:

Wow, some crazy games today.  LSU dominates Georgia (no worries, they'll still find a way to get a second $EC team into the playoffs).  Penn State slips up at home to MSU after MSU lost to Northwestern at home.  Northwestern almost loses to a terrible Nebraska team.

Miami just lost to Virginia. West Virginia looked horrible against Iowa State