(2019) SF Keion Brooks Jr. to Kentucky

[Cletus20 56]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

Even when healthy he barely played 20 minutes a game. Yeah he might start but basically a 5a and 5b. Who is the other guy get 20 minutes at the 5?  

Well that’s TJD probably. Which would mean your starting 4 is primarily playing the 5. And you are having to have somebody else play 30 minutes at 4. 

Plenty of bodies to soak up the minutes at the 5 (pretending nobody transfers). Should be looking for about 5-7 minutes per game.  If......IF Hunter can play, he can be used at 3-4-5 on D. It’s just a fricken crapshoot till we know his status.  

[Cheaney40 854]

And now Archie is losing recruiting momentum.. fun times ahead.


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you realize he landed the player of the year in TJD, right?

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Just now, Cletus20 said:

Plenty of bodies to soak up the minutes at the 5 (pretending nobody transfers). Should be looking for about 5-7 minutes per game.  If......IF Hunter can play, he can be used at 3-4-5 on D. It’s just a fricken crapshoot till we know his status.  

The whole point is to put out effective lineups not just put out a body. Putting out a body is Fitzner basically. 

You don’t need multiple bigs to be successful. Id rather just have a hard and fast rule that TJD or Davis is in the game no matter what. 

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6 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Even when healthy he barely played 20 minutes a game. Yeah he might start but basically a 5a and 5b. Who is the other guy get 20 minutes at the 5?  

Well that’s TJD probably. Which would mean your starting 4 is primarily playing the 5. And you are having to have somebody else play 30 minutes at 4. 

Assuming Smith stays, there are 80 total minutes available at the 4 and 5 every night.   Davis, Jackson-Davis, Hunter, Thompson, and Smith can eat those minutes in a hurry, and Smith and Hunter can play the 3 as well.  That leaves out Forrester and Moore who many said should play THIS season when we had no depth.    Moore's done.  Not sure about Forrester.

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1 minute ago, Joe DeLow said:

If Franklin is starting, we have bigger problems.


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Completely and absolutely disagree.   Have you seen him play?

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1 minute ago, Old Friend said:

Assuming Smith stays, there are 80 total minutes available at the 4 and 5 every night.   Davis, Jackson-Davis, Hunter, Thompson, and Smith can eat those minutes in a hurry, and Smith and Hunter can play the 3 as well.  That leaves out Forrester and Moore who many said should play THIS season when we had no depth.    Moore's done.  Not sure about Forrester.

Agreed I just would start TJD and Davis. You want one of them in the game at all times maybe both. With either Race or Smith as the primary 4. 

Honestly would be ok with a Race/TJD/Davis rotation. 

With a Phinisee/Al/Green rotation at guard. 

Hunter and Smith can fight out the 3

[Bailey7878 2,506]

Based on being healthy, there is zero chance Davis doesn’t start. We should be a very big team next year....and a major matchup nightmare.  Hunter, TJD, Davis are most likely our starters up front. 

If hunter is healthy as we have no idea
My expectations for next year will be low which is probably a good thing. Predicting 20 wins the last two years on my part proved unrealistic. I will more realistic next year and maybe be pleastly surprised.

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1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

Agreed I just would start TJD and Davis. You want one of them in the game at all times maybe both. With either Race or Smith as the primary 4. 

Honestly would be ok with a Race/TJD/Davis rotation. 

With a Phinisee/Al/Green rotation at guard. 

Hunter and Smith can fight out the 3

Hell froze over tonight.  You and I agree.....except I'm here to tell you, Franklin will play and he will contribute,

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[Bailey7878 2,506]

I think a lot will change, and I don't even expect Green to BE here, let alone start.   Franklin or Hunter would start over him, anyway; and I think over Smith, too.    I know I'm betting on a healthy Hunter; but....
I'd bet on Phinisee, Franklin, Durham, Hunter, Davis.
Hunter by the way is 6'7" 220.  Morgan as a senior is 6'8" 230.

Green can shoot though and we have no idea on franklin. It is foolish to say he will start. Look at anderson.

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[Bailey7878 2,506]

Hell froze over tonight.  You and I agree.....except I'm here to tell you, Franklin will play and he will contribute,

They said the same thing about anderson.

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[Uspshoosier 46,332]

If Franklin is starting, we have bigger problems.


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I heard that last year from people about Phinese and then I heard those same people say the reason our season started going down hill was because RP got hurt and missed those games. You never know how things are going to work out


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[Cletus20 56]

6 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Completely and absolutely disagree.   Have you seen him play?

Franklin will end his career as one of the most favorite players to spend four years Bloomington. If this kid gets solid minutes as a frosh we will be a better basketball team next season. He will push Al without question.  

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2 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Hell froze over tonight.  You and I agree.....except I'm here to tell you, Franklin will play and he will contribute,

You as confident as about Phinisee?

If Franklins shooting keeps improving I believe you. 

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1 minute ago, Bailey7878 said:

Green can shoot though and we have no idea on franklin. It is foolish to say he will start. Look at anderson.

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Here's where we differ.   I saw Anderson last year and I saw a kid stand around and who I said openly on here wasn't ready.  I said Phinisee would surprise because I saw him several times.   Same with Franklin.   I do have an idea on Franklin because I have seen him and seen him against D1 kids.  You may not have; but it's not foolish at all if you have.

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2 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said:

They said the same thing about anderson.

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Who are "they?"  See above.

[rcbowla 7,163]

I said it earlier that I'm extremely excited to have Armaan and Trayce on board.  I wanted Trayce far more than Keion until Indiana already had Trayce, then my focus turned to Keion because I thought the chemistry would more easily surface with young players who had experience playing together...coupled with the uncertainty of Jerome Hunter.  And then Keion went on a scoring binge at La Lu and naturally my interest level continued to rise.  However, I always thought Keion was a Kentucky type of recruit (or, at least his dad seemed the type to push his son in the direction of the NBA factory...although, I still think Calipari's success with the NBA has much more to do with the fact kids enrolling at UK are much more ready for the NBA...in other words, I think he's an amazing recruiter and a solid coach, but not the other way around.)  Regardless, it's obvious to us now Keion wanted to be at Kentucky.  He may shine (part of his reasoning for playing at La Lu was to be surrounded by talent he had to battle with and prove himself worthy of playing time).  It's also possible Keion is recruited over in the future and finds less time than he envisions...unless the one and done rules end those trends we often see from Calipari or Keion does land in the NBA after one year.  He would have been almost assured of major playing time at Indiana, but he wanted to go where he felt championships were possible and where the jersey he donned increased his NBA chances (whether his feeling serves him as well as he hopes or not).  He will have to fight for a spot at UK, and I wish him well.  If Jerome Hunter is healthy next year, then he might have been fighting for a spot at Indiana too.  The only thing I know for sure about his playing time is that I won't be watching him play for Kentucky.  I have no desire.  I watch Indiana.  I don't root for other teams, regardless of whether their roster has local kids or not.  Some will follow him, and I think that's great.  I just don't know the kid and he chose not to attend Indiana.  So, with that said, I will sign off of this thread and continue on careless of what happens to him going forward (but I wish him well).
I want to root for players who play for Indiana and take pride in what that means.  If they have lousy seasons, then I will still root for them and feel their pain.  The loyalty of someone like Brooks to UK is absent, unless he grew up a Kentucky fan...and even then, I question where that loyalty truly stems from.  Playing for your home state school isn't for everyone and he made his choice.  I want to focus on the players who have chosen Indiana.  I'm really excited to see how players develop this off-season.  It will be interesting to see what sort of roster turnover happens and what additions might come along.
This whole recruitment process can be disappointing and stressful for me, but I can't imagine what it's like for the coaching staff who devotes so many hours into developing relationships and then seeing a kid elect to go elsewhere.  I would gladly do it, especially for the money they bring home, but it has to be really hard getting close to players and then being shrugged off for someplace they believe is better (especially local players who showed a lot of interest at one time or even throughout the recruitment).  Recruitments like this make me so much more fond of players like Trayce Jackson Davis who seemed so interested in Indiana that all along he had exclusively gathered Crystal Ball picks for Indiana.  And what a relief it is for a player of Trayce Jackson Davis' caliber to quietly elect to enroll at Indiana without all the limelight.  He wanted to be at Indiana.  It wasn't about garnering national attention and dragging things out.  He made his visits, then he decided...and made it public with simplicity and no ego attached.  Those are the players I'm excited about.  And it's an added bonus when players stick around long enough for me to witness their development.
 

The new generation of "the Davis brothers". I'm with ya. Want to be here then awesome! If not I no longer care. That's what it means for an athlete to choose Indiana. Ask Cody, Eric, Yogi, Thomas and Troy for example. Those guys are marginal/rotational players in the NBA yet this board has threads on them hoping for their success. I mean hell even Hulls, Sheehey, Watford and Zeosloft have threads. Good luck finding that elsewhere. Seriously best of luck. Give me the Hoosiers that choose to be Hoosiers

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1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

You as confident as about Phinisee?

If Franklins shooting keeps improving I believe you. 

Not quite...but close.  Phinisee has an IQ I could see a long time ago. Franklin started as a 4 and ended as a combo guard, so it's hard to be that confident in his IQ as a guard.  We'll see; but he's freaky long, very athletic, he can guard, and he's git terrific vision.   He's better than his ranking....I'll say that.   He is not the "shooter" Indiana needs, but he can shoot.

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1 minute ago, Old Friend said:

Not quite...but close.  Phinisee has an IQ I could see a long time ago. Franklin started as a 4 and ended as a combo guard, so it's hard to be that confident in his IQ as a guard.  We'll see; but he's freaky long, very athletic, he can guard, and he's git terrific vision.   He's better than his ranking....I'll say that.   He is not the "shooter" Indiana needs, but he can shoot.

My mind is boggled at his ranking. The stats like Phinisee defy his ranking 

[IUrocker 2,257]

I'm definitely excited about having TJD and Franklin. Even though we would have obviously welcomed Keion's talent and it would have been nice if he joined us, not getting him is not that big of a deal to me knowing we have the other two in the bag. I know we lose Juwan and most likely Romeo, but having TJD and Armaan join the lineup with a healthy (hopefully) Hunter, we for sure have the potential to be better next year. If Hunter is healthy and can be 100% for the season, i'm probably excited about him the most. If he was available this season we wouldn't have been in the bubble situation we are in.