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My whole problem is why would a kid want to come to a school on an athletic scholarship and then get to the school and have to go a whole season without playing it just doesn't make any sense would there be a freshman team or would they show a jv game on TV

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My whole problem is why would a kid want to come to a school on an athletic scholarship and then get to the school and have to go a whole season without playing it just doesn't make any sense would there be a freshman team or would they show a jv game on TV

they would practice with the team as a redshirt. Many footballers redshirt as is.

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they would practice with the team as a redshirt. Many footballers redshirt as is.

I agree with you on football but freshmen have to big of an impact on today's game in basketball that a redshirt year for most would be detrimental to their basketball skills unless you're on a national championship team and going against the best in the country in practice every day

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Gottlieb had some pretty good points on his radio show today. Can't remember them off the top of my head, but he rationalized the idea. I personally still don't want this to happen, but it would only truly effect the top 50 players in CBB.

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Gottlieb had some pretty good points on his radio show today. Can't remember them off the top of my head, but he rationalized the idea. I personally still don't want this to happen, but it would only truly effect the top 50 players in CBB.


I am unsure in what manner it only effects the top 50. Every frosh would not be eligible to play.

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I am unsure in what manner it only effects the top 50. Every frosh would not be eligible to play.

I mean as far as those are the guys who could be one and dones and would consider going overseas. My bad, didn't word it correctly.

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I would love to see the best talent in the NCAA and not DL or overseas but I also want STUDENT-athletes. There are some great minds that don't go to college and just go straight to work and excell. Athletes are no different. The greatest players should be able to go pro when THEY want to...not for us, a school, a state, a company, but for them. This is America and with any entity such as government or a corperation having that type of control over someone or something when they are not paying or rewarding them, then I have issues with it. If they are 16, 17, 18, 19 or whatever, the Dallas mavericks should be able to offer a contract the same as a University (LOI) could. Its the individual choice of what to do with his skills and labor. Thats my thought on the one and done.

 

 

Now...If the kid WANTS to go to school then yeah he has to follow the rules of the governing body...but saying a freshman can't play will just keep kids from going to college that prolly wouldn't have any other opptunities, thats to include pro ball. Imagine that there are 50 ONDers...They say to the system "I'm not going to college and sit out a yr as freshman, Im going to go pro." GREAT!...but out of that 50...5 stay in NBA, 10 OS, and 10 in DL. Thats 25 kids that are jobless and can't go to school now on a scholarship that they could have had two yrs prior. That would get real ugly, real quick. And we ALL know more then 50 will try every year but fail. Then what for them?

 

Atleast a ONDer could get some decent credits to help get into school later if Pro doesn't work out...the rest...forget about it.

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My whole problem is why would a kid want to come to a school on an athletic scholarship and then get to the school and have to go a whole season without playing it just doesn't make any sense would there be a freshman team or would they show a jv game on TV

I would point out that freshmen ineligibility is not a new thing, and it worked fine before. I'm not quite sure what the doom and gloom is about this whole idea (not particularly from you, just across this whole thread). I do not believe the B1G is going to cut their own throat by being the only conference to go it alone. If its not universal across D1 basketball and football, I highly doubt its going to happen. If it is universal, recruits will adjust to it, and it is not going to be the problem that some seem to see it as. I also believe that it would help players to actually be ready to play the college game, instead of just throwing them out there. 

 

I believe someone pointed out earlier that this might just be a gambit by several conferences to force the NBA (maybe more correctly, the players union) to address the one and done issue. It may be. Hopefully, the pros can come to a consensus about the issue. I really believe that they need to do away with the year waiting period, and allow them to go pro directly out of high school, but if they do go to college, they must complete 3 years. Just like MLB does. Its sensible, and it keeps college basketball from being just a minor league for the pros. I think the NFL has a similar rule to MLB, although its probably a mute point, very few high school football players are anywhere near ready to go straight to the NFL. They need a few years of strength and conditioning as well as their bodies continuing to mature. 

 

I would also like to see this tied in with a emphasis on graduation rates. There seems to be those teams that recruit, try them out for a year or two, and then weed them out. If you recruit them, there needs to be a commitment by the school to actually educating the player. There are always going to be those players that do not pan out talent wise, and some will transfer to lower division schools in order to play. That's fine and the original school should not get dunned because of it. I do think that some standardization of D1 academic minimums for recruits would have to be part of it. This would probably put more recruits in JUCO, but at the end of a year and a half or two years, you might actually see which players had actually put a greater focus on their academics. 

 

I do think one other thing would end up going hand in hand with this. Maximum scholarship's would have to be raised. Probably one or two in basketball, and a minimum of 10 in football. If you are going to have a class not playing, something is going to have to be done to ensure that teams have enough to field competitive teams. 

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Put an end to UK. I would almost be worth it.

it might not put a end to uk. They are doing good because they are getting the best players so they might just get the best players that are eligible. I am just saying it would end the one and done but they still might get the best players and we will still have to deal with them.

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This is a bluff and not the final objective. This is an opening gambit in a game with the NBA. Everyone...and I mean everyone knows (even agents know this) that all parties would benefit from kids staying in school longer.

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