College Bball Thread

[Uspshoosier]

Yea. They just used RPI. Which I don’t exactly agree with the Quad system. It’s too vague and not specific enough. Wins and losses mean way different things for teams. Playing a team that is 75th is considered a Q1 loss. But if Virginia loses at UC Irvine, people will perceive it as a bad loss but the NET considers it a loss that doesn’t matter. The NCAA definitely needs to work on the system and get away from trying to put a monopoly on a ratings system. Use them all and set standards.


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You have to play that 75th on the road for it to be a Quad 1 loss


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[cappymo14]

Has any team ever been invited to the tournament after suffering a 7 game losing streak, let alone following that up with a separate 5 game streak? Serious question. Just the 7 straight. Anyone know


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[Uspshoosier]

Has any team ever been invited to the tournament after suffering a 7 game losing streak, let alone following that up with a separate 5 game streak? Serious question. Just the 7 straight. Anyone know


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That will be tough to find but I will try


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[Rico]

5 minutes ago, cappymo14 said:

Has any team ever been invited to the tournament after suffering a 7 game losing streak, let alone following that up with a separate 5 game streak? Serious question. Just the 7 straight. Anyone know


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Yes, IU in 2019.

[Uspshoosier]

That will be tough to find but I will try


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The team I thought would be close
Minny in 2012-13
Lost 4 in a row to start the losing streak and went on to lose 11 out of 16 (1St round of BTT included)to end the year. Finished 8-10 in B1G and got a 11 seed



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[cappymo14]

That will be tough to find but I will try

 

 

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I think it may be a little harder to find than I thought. Have to go through the full schedule for every team in the field. If you happen to come across something easily I’d be glad to hear about it, otherwise don’t wear yourself out looking brother. The reason I ask is, I remember watching a post game show on CBS a few years back, where the analysts were discussing the bracket viability of certain teams considered on the bubble. It popped into memory because the argument for a particular team was that although the team suffered 14 losses overall, they had never lost 3 in a row and only lost back to back games twice. The consensus from the panel was that it would give them an advantage over bubble teams with similar records, who could not claim the same. All metrics, quads and computations aside, that still gives me pause when it comes to decision time. Thing is, we don’t really know what the net is, or how it’s really used. We know some dudes computer model based on what little info the committee has leaked. I still say even with a win over OSU, it’s far from the lock some say it is. About 9 of those 12 games weren’t losses man, those were blowouts. Many on national tv. This is my opinion. Not trying to be negative in any way. I’m simply saying this....better keep winning.

 

 

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[HoosierAloha]

I think it may be a little harder to find than I thought. Have to go through the full schedule for every team in the field. If you happen to come across something easily I’d be glad to hear about it, otherwise don’t wear yourself out looking brother. The reason I ask is, I remember watching a post game show on CBS a few years back, where the analysts were discussing the bracket viability of certain teams considered on the bubble. It popped into memory because the argument for a particular team was that although the team suffered 14 losses overall, they had never lost 3 in a row and only lost back to back games twice. The consensus from the panel was that it would give them an advantage over bubble teams with similar records, who could not claim the same. All metrics, quads and computations aside, that still gives me pause when it comes to decision time. Thing is, we don’t really know what the net is, or how it’s really used. We know some dudes computer model based on what little info the committee has leaked. I still say even with a win over OSU, it’s far from the lock some say it is. Those 12 games weren’t losses man, those were blowouts. Many on national tv. This is my opinion. Not trying to be negative in any way. I’m simply saying this....better keep winning.
 
 
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Blowouts...? Losses, yes but not blowouts

@UM -11 not really that close
@Maryland -3 close most of the game
Vs. Nebraska -15 blowout, bad loss
@pu -15 blowout
@NW -7 bad loss
Vs Michigan -23 blowout, bad loss
@Rutger -8 bad loss
Vs. Iowa -5 late competitive loss
Vs. O$U -3 late competitive loss
@Minny -21 blowout
Vs. pu -2 competitive close loss
@iowa -6 OT loss


5 of those losses were blowouts. 5 of those games were late possession losses with some tough shots made. If you wanted to make an argument injuries played a big role you could. The team definitely showed lackluster effort in many too.


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[HoosierAloha]

Close one in the Big 12 tourney. WVU up 66-63 on Oklahoma with 4 to go


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[ElectricBoogaloo]

 

[Uspshoosier]

That’s a 2


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[HoosierAloha]

Wow, what a way to lose

 

Edit: that’s a first for me

 

 

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[cappymo14]

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Haha! No playing that one off. Oooh I bet that hurt though, what ever he hit to make him tumble sounded like hard object on dense bone.


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[ElectricBoogaloo]

2 minutes ago, cappymo14 said:

Haha! No playing that one off. Oooh I bet that hurt though, what ever he hit to make him tumble sounded like hard object on dense bone.


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Watching his running form I’d say the name Miles is undeserved. 

[HoosierFan1994]

12 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

 

I could have seen this happen to Crean while he was here. 

[HoosierFan1994]

Tomorrow starts nonstop action Thursday to Sunday for three straight weeks! College Hoops at its best. 

[cappymo14]

Blowouts...? Losses, yes but not blowouts

 

@UM -11 not really that close

@Maryland -3 close most of the game

Vs. Nebraska -15 blowout, bad loss

@pu -15 blowout

@NW -7 bad loss

Vs Michigan -23 blowout, bad loss

@Rutger -8 bad loss

Vs. Iowa -5 late competitive loss

Vs. O$U -3 late competitive loss

@Minny -21 blowout

Vs. pu -2 competitive close loss

@iowa -6 OT loss

 

 

5 of those losses were blowouts. 5 of those games were late possession losses with some tough shots made. If you wanted to make an argument injuries played a big role you could. The team definitely showed lackluster effort in many too.

 

 

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Alright, yeah I get where you are coming from. I’m really honestly not trying to stir the pot. The double, multiple game losing streaks give me a legit hard time when I consider the team for placement regardless of who we beat. I understand that I cannot discount the fact that IU came up huge against some of the best, and obviously injuries matter. I just wonder how much really. Also, I’d like to argue that the Rutgers and NW losses should indeed be placed into the blowout category. Both of those teams held 15 and 14 point leads respectively, late in the 2nd half. Neither of those games were in doubt after halftime. IU had horrendous scoring droughts in each. I claim they were also blowouts, because the final score was deceiving. By my logic, That’s at least 7 of 12.

 

 

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[cappymo14]

Wow, what a way to lose
 
Edit: that’s a first for me
 
 
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What happened? I fell asleep.


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[HoosierAloha]

What happened? I fell asleep.


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Oklahoma hit a shot at the buzzer to tie but the players foot was on the line. They lost by a point.


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[HoosierAloha]

Alright, yeah I get where you are coming from. I’m really honestly not trying to stir the pot. The double, multiple game losing streaks give me a legit hard time when I consider the team for placement regardless of who we beat. I understand that I cannot discount the fact that IU came up huge against some of the best, and obviously injuries matter. I just wonder how much really. Also, I’d like to argue that the Rutgers and NW losses should indeed be placed into the blowout category. Both of those teams held 15 and 14 point leads respectively, late in the 2nd half. Neither of those games were in doubt after halftime. IU had horrendous scoring droughts in each. I claim they were also blowouts, because the final score was deceiving. By my logic, That’s at least 7 of 12.
 
 
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Yes, they weren’t competitive in some and went through horrible scoring droughts but... the committee has a 10 point cap. They were also played without our current roster on the court.


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[cappymo14]

Yes, they weren’t competitive in some and went through horrible scoring droughts but... the committee has a 10 point cap. They were also played without our current roster on the court.

 

 

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I’ll agree on the injuries. Anderson forced to play minutes he wasn’t ready for, mixed with other erratic lineups thrown together to see what might stick. All adds up. I was really looking for other viewpoints to calm my troubled mind. If guys like you and USPS tell me not to worry....then I don’t worry.

 

Edit....I’d still say better just keep on winning though.

 

 

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