Kepner Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 If you need to oversign as much as Crean does, you aren't very good at roster management. Roster management isn't always about the coach. Kids are free to choose. Crean is not the only one who does it. Pitino does it just as much, if not more than Crean. Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Welcome aboard OG! Always been a fan of yours---Oladipo type athleticism but even taller! Will be looking forward to some monster--oops! Kepner and Happydaze 2 Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 That is an incredible increase Napleshoosier! CR3AMnCR1MS0N 1 Quote
Popular Post CampHoosier Posted October 15, 2014 Popular Post Posted October 15, 2014 On what he’s most looking forward to about playing at Indiana: “Just playing under the bright lights in the Big Ten. Playing for coach Crean. And wearing the candy stripes.” Nuff said ALASKA HOOSIER, 323SGrant, ccgeneral and 14 others 17 Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Here! Here! Like him already! ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
OliviaPope40 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 1 down and 1 to go. rebelhoosier848891, CR3AMnCR1MS0N and ALASKA HOOSIER 3 Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Olivia---You talking about Shake or Bryant? :biggrin: OliviaPope40 1 Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Some posters on other sites are claiming that OG has relatives in BTown---an aunt/uncle----cool if true! WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
OliviaPope40 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Olivia---You talking about Shake or Bryant? :biggrin: I want to say Shake but our chances are better with Bryant. Quote
schoosier Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 If you need to oversign as much as Crean does, you aren't very good at roster management.Understatement. We are at the top of the B1g in turnover rate in mens basketball on and off the court and not because of players leaving for the NBA. It comes from signing 6/7 new players every year and turning loose good quality upperclassmen for the next, new shiny player. We Pride ourselves as being different from UK yet we can't even have a senior night except for the cheerleaders and band. Disgraceful what IU has become. Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Schoosier---I disagree with calling it disgraceful unless the players are actually being "run off". Many if not most other programs are doing close to the same thing. I agree with you that I don't like it and hope last year was an exception and not the new IU norm. I am also on record agreeing with you that we need players that we develop and get experience so we can have competitive upperclassmen instead of being young--- year after year after year.......Experience matters--experience wins. MikeRoberts, Walking Boot of Doom, Crimson and Cream and 1 other 4 Quote
Popular Post Walking Boot of Doom Posted October 15, 2014 Popular Post Posted October 15, 2014 Glad to see the miserable people will always be miserable. Congratulations to OG and welcome! Love that he said he's excited to wear the candy stripes! Now go get in the gym, it's time to be great! Stuhoo, WayneFleekHoosier, rebelhoosier848891 and 7 others 10 Quote
Crimson and Cream Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Wow, the recruitment of this kid really happened quickly. I never thought we were the favorites to land him, but let me say welcome to Bloomington young fella!!! Remember, a ranking is just a number. Victor Oladipo can tell you that if you don't believe me. This is Indiana, and it's all up to you whether or not you will be great. Enjoy your senior season. rebelhoosier848891 and Kepner 2 Quote
OliviaPope40 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Oh Coach Jackson let us introduce you to our newest recruit. rebelhoosier848891 and GloryDays 2 Quote
schoosier Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Schoosier---I disagree with calling it disgraceful unless the players are actually being "run off". Many if not most other programs are doing close to the same thing. I agree with you that I don't like it and hope last year was an exception and not the new IU norm. I am also on record agreeing with you that we need players that we develop and get experience so we can have competitive upperclassmen instead of being young--- year after year after year.......Experience matters--experience wins.Rebel, we seem to agree on most everything except the definition of being "run off". I surmise Roth, Abell, Creek, Jurkin, and others were run off while Fisher fits into the other. Why would Fishers then be such a surprise and caught the staff off guard. You guessed it, they had no planning in it like the others. Next year will be more of the same just by his commits. Of course, these transfers will leave for more playing time, but the official statement by Crean like Fishers speak volume as to motivation. MikeRoberts 1 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 OG seems to be an athletic freak. I think Crean really thrives with these types of players. I like to see the addition of players with size that can play the 3 or 4. Kepner 1 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 Does anyone know what his motor/work ethic is like? I really don't know much about this kid. I trust Crean's assessment of guards/wings though. Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 I agree Schoosier that we disagree on the definition of "run off". I don't think a recruit is "run off" if the staff is truthful with him and he is told he has had 2 years to develop and has not and others who are younger or are walk-ons are going to be playing over him next year and then HE decides to transfer to a school for more playing time. I do think a player is "run off" if he is told he has not progressed and IU is not renewing his scholarship next year so he might as well transfer. Maybe there is sometimes almost a blurred line between the two but they are very different. Most top tier D1 athletes like IU would recruit want to play and they are not content to set on the bench so they decide to transfer when the staff is truthful with them. I think that applies to players like Abell . He still comes back to IU to scrimmage and visit so I don't think he holds a grudge. But again--I agree I don't like the high turnover either. Kepner 1 Quote
schoosier Posted October 15, 2014 Posted October 15, 2014 I agree Schoosier that we disagree on the definition of "run off". I don't think a recruit is "run off" if the staff is truthful with him and he is told he has had 2 years to develop and has not and others who are younger or are walk-ons are going to be playing over him next year and then HE decides to transfer to a school for more playing time. I do think a player is "run off" if he is told he has not progressed and IU is not renewing his scholarship next year so he might as well transfer. Maybe there is sometimes almost a blurred line between the two but they are very different. Most top tier D1 athletes like IU would recruit want to play and they are not content to set on the bench so they decide to transfer when the staff is truthful with them. I think that applies to players like Abell . He still comes back to IU to scrimmage and visit so I don't think he holds a grudge. But again--I agree I don't like the high turnover either.Would you say we have recruited top tier D1 athletes this year looking at all 7 of our newcomers who have taken scholarships? Do you think they said to those who aren't you have one year and isn't this against the spirit of Glass' athlete bill of rights or whatever its called? Hartman deserves to graduate and go thru Senior Night even if he never sees the floor. Crean offered a scholly during his soph season and he accepted. The folks here that want to run off these juniors and players don't see the big picture of sorry recruiting and failed promises. No leadership starts at the top and Crean has overachieved here, although a lot less than 3.2 he gets paid. Welcome new commit just don't get too comfortable as the chances of you staying are stacked against you. Bowhunter 1 Quote
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