(2015) SF Ogugua Anunoby to IU

[Kepner]

I understand your point too. They do have different skill sets. My comparison and connection relates to upside, athleticism, national recognition, etc...

In addition to other sources, my man basketball4iu has stated publicly that April and Priller are very far behind and plain not very good. I am not basing everything on that claim but it fits in to support everything else.

I would love as much as anything for these guys to prove us all wrong but do I want to give 4 years of scholarship to get "Jeff Howard" like production for a season or 2? No.





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Agree to disagree I guess

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Agree to disagree I guess

Deal! Let's revisit this at season's end.


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[Hovadipo]

Hard to tell from this pic, but the 6'8" claims on OG may be correct. Morgan and OG look similar heights in the pic.


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OG definitely wasn't sold short on his 6'7 listing. Taller if anything. Looked about the same height as the rest of the similarly built guys on the team.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

OG definitely wasn't sold short on his 6'7 listing. Taller if anything. Looked about the same height as the rest of the similarly built guys on the team.


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Great size for a wing type player with perimeter skills. If he is our backup plan for Shake, I'm perfectly fine with that.

Like many others, I'd like to have an opening for my pipe dream of Maker, Bryant, or Zimmerman.


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[Hovadipo]

Great size for a wing type player with perimeter skills. If he is our backup plan for Shake, I'm perfectly fine with that.

Like many others, I'd like to have an opening for my pipe dream of Maker, Bryant, or Zimmerman.


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My thoughts exactly.


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[rebelhoosier848891]

Yes---OG is the real deal.  That height allows him to play some mean defense too!

 

The chips should start falling anytime now!

[CampHoosier]

The odds Bryant comes in are very very slim. So unless there's an unknown big we get in on late, this will be most likely a wing class. In this case, Perea is essential, whether he's improved or not. We don't have any other options. Personally, I think Hanner will be just fine. And I'm not knocking Priller. He's hustled just like everyone else this summer. But just watch the full game against McGill. He's lost on nearly every play and lost out on rebounds to guys half his size. Let's be real. 

[Kepner]

The odds Bryant comes in are very very slim. So unless there's an unknown big we get in on late, this will be most likely a wing class. In this case, Perea is essential, whether he's improved or not. We don't have any other options. Personally, I think Hanner will be just fine. And I'm not knocking Priller. He's hustled just like everyone else this summer. But just watch the full game against McGill. He's lost on nearly every play and lost out on rebounds to guys half his size. Let's be real. 

Every player has something to work on. Priller is way behind on his defense and his rebounding but he gets his shot off without any trouble. He already has the reputation among his fellow players that he has a deadly shot. Plus if you really watch that McGill game, he seems to hustle a little more than others when it came to saving a ball from out of bounds and getting back on D. He, like other players have a long way to go.
I think this topic has been beaten beyond death. Its understandable that a lot of people didn't like that Crean brought in Priller and April, but for right now, they are on the squad that there is nothing anyone can do about it. hahaha

[CampHoosier]

Every player has something to work on. Priller is way behind on his defense and his rebounding but he gets his shot off without any trouble. He already has the reputation among his fellow players that he has a deadly shot. Plus if you really watch that McGill game, he seems to hustle a little more than others when it came to saving a ball from out of bounds and getting back on D. He, like other players have a long way to go.
I think this topic has been beaten beyond death. Its understandable that a lot of people didn't like that Crean brought in Priller and April, but for right now, they are on the squad that there is nothing anyone can do about it. hahaha

 

He's a Hoosier. You are correct. But the question many had is what happens when we oversign by 2-3 players. If one player goes to the NBA, two will have to leave. Watching every Canada game there was clearly one player far behind the rest in every aspect except launching threes. He won't be able to get those shots off against MSU or Louisville. Just not happening. So in the case players are coming in, players will transfer for minutes. Priller and Hartman are no brainers at this point. I hope he drops shots when he does play this year. But as others have pointed out, he's at the skill level of Howard.  

[Stuhoo]

He's a Hoosier. You are correct. But the question many had is what happens when we oversign by 2-3 players. If one player goes to the NBA, two will have to leave. Watching every Canada game there was clearly one player far behind the rest in every aspect except launching threes. He won't be able to get those shots off against MSU or Louisville. Just not happening. So in the case players are coming in, players will transfer for minutes. Priller and Hartman are no brainers at this point. I hope he drops shots when he does play this year. But as others have pointed out, he's at the skill level of Howard.  

 

 

I like most of your post above, except for the last line.

 

Middle School Bob has the same size, shape,and athleticism as Jeff Howard, but his skill level is inherently different. If (and that's a big if) MSB could be an effective stretch four and play position defense to Jeff Howard's level, he might carve a niche and have a real go at IU basketball.

 

As you said that's a big if, but the good news is the coaching staff is starting to get answers over the next few months.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

But as others have pointed out, he's at the skill level of Howard.

That's a disservice to Howard honestly. Priller can admittedly shoot the ball. However, at the college level you can't be a defensive liability that large. It's not about his shooting or offense. It's his defense/athleticism. At this point, I am happy to watch it play out, but I would just like to know Crean's thinking from the get-go.

My BIGGEST question is, why not give Ritchie or Burton a walk-on, 1 year schollie to solve the problem?????


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

I actually think Prillers pick and pop offense looks good on tape. I think it's the Defensive end that is my biggest concern.

The reason I don't include April in my discussions is because I have nothing to judge except some insider info.




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[Kepner]

. But the question many had is what happens when we oversign by 2-3 players. If one player goes to the NBA, two will have to leave. 

Everyone on this site is soooo worried about this but at the same time, I'm glad we have a coaching staff making these decisions and not any one of us haha

[Kepner]

He's a Hoosier. You are correct. But the question many had is what happens when we oversign by 2-3 players. If one player goes to the NBA, two will have to leave. Watching every Canada game there was clearly one player far behind the rest in every aspect except launching threes. He won't be able to get those shots off against MSU or Louisville. Just not happening. So in the case players are coming in, players will transfer for minutes. Priller and Hartman are no brainers at this point. I hope he drops shots when he does play this year. But as others have pointed out, he's at the skill level of Howard.  

And you must have watched some different games in Canada because priller didn't even play in every game…..

[Stuhoo]

That's a disservice to Howard honestly. Priller can admittedly shoot the ball. However, at the college level you can't be a defensive liability that large. It's not about his shooting or offense. It's his defense/athleticism. At this point, I am happy to watch it play out, but I would just like to know Crean's thinking from the get-go.

My BIGGEST question is, why not give Ritchie or Burton a walk-on, 1 year schollie to solve the problem?????


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I think you may be missing the takeaway, Wayne.

 

Howard as a freshman was in no way, shape, or form ready to play defense for a D1 team. By his senior year, he had gained considerable strength, quickness, and in-game knowledge, and was probably our best versed big defender (sad, but true). 

 

MSB was weak, slow, and confused on the defensive end during the Canadian trip, but he's a fair bit bigger than Howard (2" taller and already weighs the same as an incoming frosh). That trip was three months before his 1st practice with the team! If he develops a bit physically, his shooting could turn him into a real rotation player by his junior year

[CampHoosier]

And you must have watched some different games in Canada because priller didn't even play in every game…..

 

Watch the McGill and UQAM games. Seriously tell me he's not the most lost player on the court on either team. 

[Walking Boot of Doom]

That's a disservice to Howard honestly. Priller can admittedly shoot the ball. However, at the college level you can't be a defensive liability that large. It's not about his shooting or offense. It's his defense/athleticism. At this point, I am happy to watch it play out, but I would just like to know Crean's thinking from the get-go.

My BIGGEST question is, why not give Ritchie or Burton a walk-on, 1 year schollie to solve the problem?????


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Why pay for what you can have for free?


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[Kepner]

Watch the McGill and UQAM games. Seriously tell me he's not the most lost player on the court on either team. 

I've watched them. I frankly don't care. HE wasn't brought in to be a starter year one. Some guys are brought in to be a rotational player. If the guys at IU could develop Howard into being a decent defender then Priller will be just fine. I'm at least willing to give and take in a conversation, but seems like you already have your opinions about every player set in stone. 

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Why pay for what you can have for free?
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It's the whole revolving door argument. I frankly don't care when lesser players transfer but many do. Recruiting kids that aren't as good as your walk ons is not a solid strategy IMO.

If he left schollies open/give them to walk ons, I would IMAGINE it would make recruiting easier. Plus, you get less negative recruiting from rivals.

The only recruits I have "wondered" about in Crean's tenure is Etherington, April, Hartman, and Priller. I also wished we had G. Harris over Patterson, but I'm not sure Harris would have been here in any circumstances.

I can explain Hartman. He peeked early, and didn't vastly improve.

I can explain Etherington. He was a big piece to getting Cody.

I can't explain April or Priller except they were the only Big guys willing to come to IU. Or Crean wanted a better "Bench Attitude" and recruited NICE guys who won't complain.

[rebelhoosier848891]

Come on WayneFleek---you don't really think Hartman (I think you meant April) and Priller were the only Big guys willing to come to IU do you?

 

I could name about 10 right here in Southern Indiana and Northern Kentucky who would die to play at a program like IU!

 

I think you are being overly cynical about them and overlooking their obvious strengths and specialties.  Yes---they need time to develop---but they are not exactly chopped liver either! 

 

And most importantly---they are now Hoosiers!