The 2015 Recruiting Class

[hoosierpap 14,300]

If this is preferred in the recruiting section, feel free to move it mods. 

 

 

I mean to keep this on topic and certainly not to that one subject we're all tired of hearing about, but it's all related. I've heard on multiple occasions a certain scenario. I haven't been following the threads on here related to Crean's standing so I'm not sure if it's been discussed here so sorry if this is redundant. 

 

We've all heard the speculation about the buyout and rumors of donors lined up and what not. Some think Crean is done if he doesn't win this year. But the scenario I am talking about, which I continue to hear, is that Crean has two ways to keep his job. Winning next year and exceeding expectations, or meeting expectations for the season along with having a top 15 class in tow. Believe that or not, I do based on what I've heard.

 

One very obvious counter argument to that scenario is IU's focus on the '16 class as opposed to the '15 class. Almost indicates my scenario could be a year premature. Could be. 

 

Anyways, I'm going with the first, and that places a lot of emphasis on the 15 class. As it is now, it isn't coming together very well. In-state talent is down. There is no denying that. There is still a year of development and growth so that could change. Jalen Coleman may be the only sure fire b10 prospect in the state. KJ Walton could be. Hyron Edwards will probably play at the level but seems to have leveled out a bit. Smits isn't there and we haven't showed much interest which speaks to that.

 

So IU is looking out of state and we clearly need a PG and some bigs pretty much regardless of how the 14 class ends. (Ryan Anderson and Jakeenan Gant would be the only two to remotely change IU's needs) So to keep this from being a book, lets look at that.

 

PGs:

 

Crawford isn't gone, but he'll be a tough pull now. The relationships were deeper than just KJ.

 

Brunson we may have came too late on. Outside of IU bringing his Dad in from Temple to fill KJ's role, don't see anything to suggest that.

 

Alonzo Trier is an interesting one. He really showed out at EYBL, led it in scoring, and IU made there presence felt for a significant amount of his games. If he doesn't grow too much, he could play the 1 in college, though his skill set seems to be more of a 2.

 

Conway I don't know anything about.

 

BIGS:

 

 

IU is not in bad shape with Giddens or Moore out of Georgia. Giddens seems to be headed to OSU but things could still change there if he makes it to all his visits. 

 

Spalding IU seems to be big on. Think they have watched him 6 times since January. It does seem like a possibility. 

 

Outside of that we aren't too strong on bigs. One guy CCG and I were talking about that IU saw Friday was Matt Heldt. Wouldn't be surprised to get someone of that caliber.

 

Ahmad could be the wild card here. IU is making an impression and he is really coming on as a player. Keep an eye out here.

 

 

Lets say you get 1 of each. Probably add a wing or 2 to get to a 4 man class. Who do you get? ( I wouldn't even try to fathom the actual possible attrition scenarios we all know it could be anything.) 

[ccgeneral 38,084]

Nice write up pap! IU still seems to be tracking Alex Illikainen also. We should find out shortly if we make his list.

[OliviaPope40 6,530]

Is Stephen Zimmerman off the table?

[JSHoosier 20,280]

Is Stephen Zimmerman off the table?

Might as well be, that's not happening.

[NotTheReal HoosierHoopster 67]

Is Stephen Zimmerman off the table?

Yes

[JSHoosier 20,280]

I want Coleman more than any other player in this class.

[JuwantGrimeShakes? 533]

This post makes me realize that if Crean pulls it together he better do it for two straight years. I don't want to fire him in 2016 and lose all those wonderful wonderful kids. That class is stacked. Back on topic. You think a four man class in 2015? Where do we find the roster spots? Oh I misread that. I'm doing terribly tonight. I'm leaving up this mess of a post and stepping away for a bit.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

I'd love to see Crean still get Crawford to prove that while KJ is a great recruiter, Crawford has wanted to play for Crean and Indiana. I know assistant coaches can build super strong relationships with kids, but this program should still have major pull.


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[hoosierpap 14,300]

I want Coleman more than any other player in this class.

 

Coleman will end up a 5 star. He is from the state. It makes sense what you're saying, but I don't see IU going down that road.

[ElectricBoogaloo 4,307]

Thanks for the write-up, pap. Great info as always.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Looks like Zimmerman is still very much on the table. Pretty interesting that we're still in it seeing as there has not been much talk of us. Maybe he's really buying in hard that he could be a better Zeller playing in his true position.


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[djsalway 4,161]

Looks like Zimmerman is still very much on the table. Pretty interesting that we're still in it seeing as there has not been much talk of us. Maybe he's really buying in hard that he could be a better Zeller playing in his true position. <br /><br /><br />Sent from my place of advanced, analytical thinking: the toilet.

Just because we're in his final 8 doesn't mean we're still in it. Let's see where he takes his 5 OVs, then we can discuss this.

[WindyCitySource 600]

Just because we're in his final 8 doesn't mean we're still in it. Let's see where he takes his 5 OVs, then we can discuss this.

 

That's true, but what's the point of including Indiana in his final 8 if he's not considering the Hoosiers at all? I could see a hometown school getting included as a courtesy or something, but why would he include Indiana for the hell of it?

 

You're right that the teams that get the OVs are the real contenders, but you certainly can't count out Indiana yet. 

[djsalway 4,161]

That's true, but what's the point of including Indiana in his final 8 if he's not considering the Hoosiers at all? I could see a hometown school getting included as a courtesy or something, but why would he include Indiana for the hell of it?<br /><br />You're right that the teams that get the OVs are the real contenders, but you certainly can't count out Indiana yet.

I'm just saying. Most kids put out a top 8, 10, etc. all for show. Just saying it doesn't mean as much as the OVs will. We have hope, but no need to get too excited.

[WindyCitySource 600]

I'm just saying. Most kids put out a top 8, 10, etc. all for show. Just saying it doesn't mean as much as the OVs will. We have hope, but no need to get too excited.

 

Oh for sure... nothing to get overly excited about. But certainly helps to squash the "he's eliminated Indiana" nonsense. 

[djsalway 4,161]

Oh for sure... nothing to get overly excited about. But certainly helps to squash the "he's eliminated Indiana" nonsense.

No I don't think at all he's eliminated us. I just really don't think being in someone's "top 8" is all that big of a deal. These kids love the attention.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

[quote name="djsalway" post="64321" timestamp="1398869180"]Just because we're in his final 8 doesn't mean we're still in it. Let's see where he takes his 5 OVs, then we can discuss this.[/quote] Partially just presenting an opposing argument to few who stated earlier that we were definitively out. Time for Crean to start throwing everything we've got at him.


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[IU Hoosier41 14,465]

[quote name="WindyCitySource" post="64326" timestamp="1398870036"]That's true, but what's the point of including Indiana in his final 8 if he's not considering the Hoosiers at all? I could see a hometown school getting included as a courtesy or something, but why would he include Indiana for the hell of it? You're right that the teams that get the OVs are the real contenders, but you certainly can't count out Indiana yet. [/quote] When it comes to Top 10/ Top 8. I personally feel like they have a top 3 or maybe 5. They include the other 3 or 5 to include the schools that: A: Have crazy passionate fans that interact with the recruit on Twitter B: have been showing a lot of interest in the recruit and they don't want to let them down by not being in top 5. C: They like attention, a Top 8 keeps them relevant amongst a lot of basketball discussion. I feel like IU in the top 8 is simply out of respect for Indiana & Crean's effort to recruit him. Would be shocked if we got an official.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

[quote name="IU Hoosier41" post="64340" timestamp="1398871562"]When it comes to Top 10/ Top 8. I personally feel like they have a top 3 or maybe 5. They include the other 3 or 5 to include the schools that:

A: Have crazy passionate fans that interact with the recruit on Twitter

B: have been showing a lot of interest in the recruit and they don't want to let them down by not being in top 5.

C: They like attention, a Top 8 keeps them relevant amongst a lot of basketball discussion.


I feel like IU in the top 5 is simply out of respect for Indiana & Crean's effort to recruit him. Would be shocked if we got an official.[/quote] So you're saying there's a chance... Lol


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[djsalway 4,161]

When it comes to Top 10/ Top 8. I personally feel like they have a top 3 or maybe 5. They include the other 3 or 5 to include the schools that: A: Have crazy passionate fans that interact with the recruit on Twitter B: have been showing a lot of interest in the recruit and they don't want to let them down by not being in top 5. C: They like attention, a Top 8 keeps them relevant amongst a lot of basketball discussion. I feel like IU in the top 8 is simply out of respect for Indiana & Crean's effort to recruit him. Would be shocked if we got an official.

 

Exactly what I'm saying.