(2014) SF Josh Cunningham to Bradley

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,954]

Cunningham is simply weighing his options. There are no direct quotes saying he isn't sold on IU. Every piece of "info" on him is just speculation. He's just doing what literally every other recruit does.


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Not true. Not all recruits do this. Thompson and AntLee found what they liked and committed. They didnt have to go on multiple visits, etc. Nothing is wrong with going on all visits, but it is not what ALL recruits do.

There are so many other examples of kids not using all their visits. If your DREAM school offers you usually accept.

[Hovadipo 55,102]

[quote name="WayneHoosier" post="59775" timestamp="1397515792"]Not true. Not all recruits do this. Thompson and AntLee found what they liked and committed. They didnt have to go on multiple visits, etc. Nothing is wrong with going on all visits, but it is not what ALL recruits do.

There are so many other examples of kids not using all their visits. If your DREAM school offers you usually accept.[/quote]

I said weighing options, not taking visits. Literally every recruit weighs his/her options...as I said in the first place. Also, Yante Maten's "dream school" offered and we all saw what happened.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 47,954]

I want Eron Harris, Deng/Cunningham, Ryan Anderson based on who is left and our options. If Harris gets waiver we would have amazing back court depth. Yogi, Blackmon, Harris would be so much fun. Stan and Rojo too. Eron could potentially be eligible for waiver too.

I know our front court would be really light. Jurkin/Hoetzel would have to play a few minutes.

[Bowhunter 2,693]

This is how I feel as well.  I want Cunningham, Deng Deng looks better than I expected, and Ryan Anderson is a complete player!

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,954]

I said weighing options, not taking visits. Literally every recruit weighs his/her options...as I said in the first place. Also, Yante Maten's "dream school" offered and we all saw what happened. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

WAS Maten's dream school. Not presently. Not sure what happened there. Maybe the lack of love prior to us and Georgia getting involved. Good point though.

The weighing options thing is silly. Of course they weigh options. But delaying decision date and going on more visits is so much different than a person verbaling on a first visit. Night and day different. Not saying Cunningham won't commit to us, but it is looking very unlikely based on his actions.

[Hovadipo 55,102]

[quote name="WayneHoosier" post="59781" timestamp="1397516511"]WAS Maten's dream school. Not presently. Not sure what happened there. Maybe the lack of love prior to us and Georgia getting involved. Good point though.

The weighing options thing is silly. Of course they weigh options. But delaying decision date and going on more visits is so much different than a person verbaling on a first visit. Night and day different. Not saying Cunningham won't commit to us, but it is looking very unlikely based on his actions.[/quote]

I never said weighing options and verbaling on a first visit is the same thing. I agree that they are very different. My point was that everyone has their own way of making a decision, and Cunningham just so happens to be taking longer on his. That shouldn't necessarily represent where he stands with us. I honestly don't have a guess on who he chooses. I'd sure hope it is us, but very few people know what he is thinking right now.


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[CampHoosier 3,697]

People are pretty quick to forget that Crean pulled Remy Abell from Bradley... and there are many people on this board that are pissed he isn't still on the IU roster. 

 

He didn't pull him from Bradley. Abell reopened his recruitment long before we ever showed any interest

[WindyCitySource 600]

He didn't pull him from Bradley. Abell reopened his recruitment long before we ever showed any interest

 

I know that... but some people here are acting like IU is too good to take a guy who is considering Bradley. Remy decommitted from Bradley and held offers from mostly mid-majors. Indiana, Penn State, Seton Hall and Xavier were the only major schools to offer (per a quick Rivals search), yet many of the same people long to have him back on the team. 

[KelleyHoosh 2,263]

I know that... but some people here are acting like IU is too good to take a guy who is considering Bradley. Remy decommitted from Bradley and held offers from mostly mid-majors. Indiana, Penn State, Seton Hall and Xavier were the only major schools to offer (per a quick Rivals search), yet many of the same people long to have him back on the team. 

The way I interpret it is that people dont have a problem with us going after someone considering Bradley; its that we are losing the battle to Bradley. 

[WindyCitySource 600]

The way I interpret it is that people dont have a problem with us going after someone considering Bradley; its that we are losing the battle to Bradley. 

 

First of all, he hasn't committed to Bradley. Second of all... I understand the perception is that IU should never lose a recruit to Bradley. But that's just not true. Not every prospect has the same priorities in college. He can be the star at Bradley, he has long-standing relationships with the coaching staff, it's closer to home and family, and he can probably play exclusively on the wing there. None of those things are try for IU, and having 5 banners on the wall from before he was born aren't automatically going to make him drop everything and commit to IU. 

[KelleyHoosh 2,263]

[quote name="WindyCitySource" post="59963" timestamp="1397598505"]First of all, he hasn't committed to Bradley. Second of all... I understand the perception is that IU should never lose a recruit to Bradley. But that's just not true. Not every prospect has the same priorities in college. He can be the star at Bradley, he has long-standing relationships with the coaching staff, it's closer to home and family, and he can probably play exclusively on the wing there. None of those things are try for IU, and having 5 banners on the wall from before he was born aren't automatically going to make him drop everything and commit to IU. [/quote]

I personally agree with you. Was just pointing out an alternative interpretation. Though I do think IU should at least be competitive in a recruiting battle with Bradley, and we have seemingly lost the momentum here.


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[WindyCitySource 600]

I personally agree with you. Was just pointing out an alternative interpretation. Though I do think IU should at least be competitive in a recruiting battle with Bradley, and we have seemingly lost the momentum here.


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Indiana should be competetive in a recruiting battle with any school. I just think people tend to be under the impression that if Cunningham picks Bradley or South Carolina that there's automatically something wrong with Crean and/or Indiana. While IU's momentum is not great, there are may too many things at play in recruiting a specific kid to pin it all on one aspect. 

[KelleyHoosh 2,263]

[quote name="WindyCitySource" post="59967" timestamp="1397599429"]Indiana should be competetive in a recruiting battle with any school. I just think people tend to be under the impression that if Cunningham picks Bradley or South Carolina that there's automatically something wrong with Crean and/or Indiana. While IU's momentum is not great, there are may too many things at play in recruiting a specific kid to pin it all on one aspect. [/quote]

I agree one kid is not a good gauge of if something is wrong with the coach or program. I do think it's fair to look at the class for this cycle and scratch your head, however


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[NotTheReal HoosierHoopster 67]

Indiana should be competetive in a recruiting battle with any school. I just think people tend to be under the impression that if Cunningham picks Bradley or South Carolina that there's automatically something wrong with Crean and/or Indiana. While IU's momentum is not great, there are may too many things at play in recruiting a specific kid to pin it all on one aspect.

It's not just Cunningham.

[WindyCitySource 600]

It's not just Cunningham.

 

Who else? You can't be talking about Marcus Lee and Trevor Thompson. Ohio State has been the better program, both recently and for their entire lifetimes. Matta has put several big men in the league and he's an excellent coach/recruiter. Not even close to the same thing as Cunningham considering Bradley. 

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

[quote name="Hoosier Hoopster" post="59978" timestamp="1397600855"]It's not just Cunningham.[/quote] What players have spurned IU for lesser programs? OSU has been much better in regard to Tourney success and the development of big men. Yante Marten picked a school where he could be a stud instead of a bench player. We took Rob Johnson from UNC, and landed top talent from the East Coast in TW, Stan and NV. Lots of players have chosen Crean and IU over programs that have experienced better recent success.


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[MemphisHoosier 2,048]

What players have spurned IU for lesser programs? OSU has been much better in regard to Tourney success and the development of big men. Yante Marten picked a school where he could be a stud instead of a bench player. We took Rob Johnson from UNC, and landed top talent from the East Coast in TW, Stan and NV. Lots of players have chosen Crean and IU over programs that have experienced better recent success.


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Scotty, how dare you confront Hoosier Hoopster's irrational hatred of CTC with logic and reason!

[NotTheReal HoosierHoopster 67]

What players have spurned IU for lesser programs? OSU has been much better in regard to Tourney success and the development of big men. Yante Marten picked a school where he could be a stud instead of a bench player. We took Rob Johnson from UNC, and landed top talent from the East Coast in TW, Stan and NV. Lots of players have chosen Crean and IU over programs that have experienced better recent success.


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I never said anything about lesser programs. The poster said we should not think anything is wrong with Creans recruiting just because Cunningham picks Bradley or South Carolina over Indiana. To which I responded that it isn't just Cunningham.

Shall I give you a list of all of the players we have whiffed on since our last commitment? I would think as an Indiana fan, you would understand our recruiting situation.

[fivestarhtm 18]

Basically I see it tht crean needs to focus more on our area than the east coast an west coast an get the best talent in indiana and surrounding areas for many reason but we should never lose on getting me basketball an the top talent in our home state. An think tht he needs to stay away from one an done players cause his system doesn't work with one n done players we need hearts an souls tht bleed cream n crimson cause tht is what indiana basketball is about hard work an heart left on the court each an every time u step onto the hardwood. I was talking to my brother an I said to him u relize we have 3 scholarships an we can't get anyone to take them an I said u knw one people used to be clawing there way into this program two we never went after transfers unless they where big name players an now we might have to go to the hyper to get the rest of r roster filled. Kinda shows u something isn't right here.


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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

[quote name="Hoosier Hoopster" post="59999" timestamp="1397607152"]I never said anything about lesser programs. The poster said we should not think anything is wrong with Creans recruiting just because Cunningham picks Bradley or South Carolina over Indiana. To which I responded that it isn't just Cunningham. Shall I give you a list of all of the players we have whiffed on since our last commitment? I would think as an Indiana fan, you would understand our recruiting situation.[/quote] As an Indiana fan, I understand that 3 McDAA's and 10 ESPN 100 recruits in 3 years is a pretty good track record. We've won significant recruiting battles against programs with much more success. With JBJ we won against UK, UM, MSU and KU. Rojo: UNC. Vonleh: Cuse, UConn, GTown, UNC, OSU, KU. Troy: UNC, UL, OSU. Yogi: Butler and Florida. Let's weigh our successes against our defeats. I'd still say we've come out on top. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners