(2014) SF Josh Cunningham to Bradley

[NotTheReal HoosierHoopster 67]

I think he pulled it straight from Peegs' Premium. Is that viewed as "ok" by the mods here?

Why wouldn't it be? I didn't copy and paste and I didn't use direct quotes. I simply posted what was in the air.

[Hoosier_Cat_42 35]

Ah yes, the classic IU Vs Bradley recruit face off. We have seen this one before! Two powerhouses going toe to toe for a 6 foot 7 wing. Where's the Tylenol.

I know! Right?
LOL!!! Wow

[CottageGrove 563]

Why wouldn't it be? I didn't copy and paste and I didn't use direct quotes. I simply posted what was in the air.

 

This may shock you, but that's not a question for me to answer. I can only say that in my time reading the boards the administrators don't typically want posters on a free and open board to post information disseminated on a private/premium board from another site.

[Hoosier_Cat_42 35]

This kid is a must get in my eyes! I think I'd take him over any other recruit that's still out there. Perfect fit to play the 4 spot for us. If we miss out on him bc he's choosing Bradley, I'll be pretty ticked off about that. How someone can't sell available minutes at INDIANA over playing at Bradley (yawn) is a mystery to me. Seems like you'd have to try to scare him away somehow.

[8bucks 7,488]

I thought the beauty of this site was that there were no limits on the use of what some considered premie stuff


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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

[quote name="Hoosier Hoopster" post="59735" timestamp="1397507048"]I couldn't care less what you appreciate. Don't take your frustration on Creans recruiting struggles out on the messenger.[/quote] You are speaking as though you have unique insider knowledge when you don't. Do you have any support for your statement?


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[WindyCitySource 600]

This kid is a must get in my eyes! I think I'd take him over any other recruit that's still out there. Perfect fit to play the 4 spot for us. If we miss out on him bc he's choosing Bradley, I'll be pretty ticked off about that. How someone can't sell available minutes at INDIANA over playing at Bradley (yawn) is a mystery to me. Seems like you'd have to try to scare him away somehow.

 

Or it could be because he doesn't want to play the 4, like we've discussed before. Also he could start right away at Bradley, it's closer to home and in-state. There are legitimate reasons. 

[WindyCitySource 600]

You are speaking as though you have unique insider knowledge when you don't. Do you have any support for your statement?


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I'll support it. He's most likely pulling it directly from another premium site, but so am I. I don't know how everyone feels about it over here (I've been cautioned on other boards in the past, which I think is fair), but the source of that information is the top dog at another recruiting site and only paying members have access to it. 

 

EDIT:

By "feels about it," I meant sharing information you get here that you paid to read somewhere else. 

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

"If they don't want to be a Hoosier, then we're better off without them."

This is a type of quote I have heard over and over in my time as an IU fan. I know we're in a situation where we are desperate for bodies, but why change our perspective now? Cunningham doesn't seem to be sold on what Indiana has to offer, so let's move on to the next guy.


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[WindyCitySource 600]

People are pretty quick to forget that Crean pulled Remy Abell from Bradley... and there are many people on this board that are pissed he isn't still on the IU roster. 

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

[quote name="WindyCitySource" post="59747" timestamp="1397508810"]I'll support it. He's most likely pulling it directly from another premium site, but so am I. I don't know how everyone feels about it over here (I've been cautioned on other boards in the past, which I think is fair), but the source of that information is the top dog at another recruiting site and only paying members have access to it.

EDIT:
By "feels about it," I meant sharing information you get here that you paid to read somewhere else. [/quote] That's fine. Stating that you are pulling the info from someone with actually credibility (aka a premium board admin) is support enough. I don't like people who don't have legitimate sources and credibility posing as insiders. Thanks for clearing up the confusion about the legitimacy of his statement.


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[CottageGrove 563]

I thought the beauty of this site was that there were no limits on the use of what some considered premie stuff


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I'm just guessing, but it seems to me that if the purveyors here obtain info independently they're good regardless of whether another site considers it premium. That's different though than reading that info on a site that considers it premium and then coming over here and posting it.

 

I could be off base, of course, but I wouldn't think it would be viewed as ok to basically copy and paste premie info from elsewhere.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

[quote name="WindyCitySource" post="59749" timestamp="1397508956"]People are pretty quick to forget that Crean pulled Remy Abell from Bradley... and there are many people on this board that are pissed he isn't still on the IU roster. [/quote] This is a great example of, in my opinion, an issue with overselling your program to recruits. If you have to beg them to come, are they really going to be happy here for four years? Could add to the transfer list everyone was so upset about.


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[WindyCitySource 600]

I don't think it's wise to make a habit of posting everything from 247, Peegs or ESPN over here, but I think dropping a few tidbits here and there is probably OK. (imo)

[WindyCitySource 600]

This is a great example of, in my opinion, an issue with overselling your program to recruits. If you have to beg them to come, are they really going to be happy here for four years? Could add to the transfer list everyone was so upset about.


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I'm in the camp that doesn't worry about transfers. We read a lot about IU on this board and on various sites, but when you read about other programs and college basketball as a whole you can get a better picture of where the game is at right now. Transfers are a growing trend in college basketball to the point where every program should expect to lose a player to transfer pretty much every season.

 

Go check out the transfer list that Jeff Goodman always keeps... it's absurd how many kids leave their schools. The numbers will continue to grow, especially with the grad transfer rules and kids getting waivers to play right away.

 

Plus all the turnover with coaches means kids are going to continue to jump ship when their coach leaves/gets fired.

[CottageGrove 563]

I'll go ahead and beat the dead horse now and point out that in the forum rules/guidelines posted by Jaybob he explicitly wrote not to post content that is premium on other sites.

[WindyCitySource 600]

I'll go ahead and beat the dead horse now and point out that in the forum rules/guidelines posted by Jaybob he explicitly wrote not to post content that is premium on other sites.

 

Welp, that was easy. 

[Hovadipo 61,309]

[quote name="scottybower" post="59748" timestamp="1397508849"]"If they don't want to be a Hoosier, then we're better off without them."

This is a type of quote I have heard over and over in my time as an IU fan. I know we're in a situation where we are desperate for bodies, but why change our perspective now? Cunningham doesn't seem to be sold on what Indiana has to offer, so let's move on to the next guy.


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Cunningham is simply weighing his options. There are no direct quotes saying he isn't sold on IU. Every piece of "info" on him is just speculation. He's just doing what literally every other recruit does.


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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

[quote name="WindyCitySource" post="59754" timestamp="1397509456"]I'm in the camp that doesn't worry about transfers. We read a lot about IU on this board and on various sites, but when you read about other programs and college basketball as a whole you can get a better picture of where the game is at right now. Transfers are a growing trend in college basketball to the point where every program should expect to lose a player to transfer pretty much every season.

Go check out the transfer list that Jeff Goodman always keeps... it's absurd how many kids leave their schools. The numbers will continue to grow, especially with the grad transfer rules and kids getting waivers to play right away.

Plus all the turnover with coaches means kids are going to continue to jump ship when their coach leaves/gets fired.[/quote] I'm of the exact same opinion.


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[Hoosier_Cat_42 35]

Or it could be because he doesn't want to play the 4, like we've discussed before. Also he could start right away at Bradley, it's closer to home and in-state. There are legitimate reasons.

All I'm saying is: I really hope we land him, and I'm disappointed that IU could potentially lose out on a recruiting battle to Bradley.

As for the 4 spot thing, surely this kid knows the 4 spot in IU's system is essentially what the 3 spot is in a traditional system. He'd get plenty of opportunities to showcase his outside skills if that's a deciding factor. I still think the 4 spot, from what I've seen on this kid, would give him the best chance to be successful. He's not a ball handler or anything, and he likes to crash the boards and play inside a little, so I think it's perfect. I'd also like to think our coaching staff would be able to sell him on these points as well.