How is Darian DeVries Doing So Far?

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, str8baller said:

Newton led the team in scoring and assists for the second title team and was second in rebounds. But yea….im sure he didn’t have anything to do with them winning it all. Lmao..,do you guys even watch the things you talk about here????

A single transfer, who had been with the program multiple years. Wow. How does that explain his lack of success his first 4 years? Tristan Newton the first guy in the history of college basketball to transfer? Don’t hurt yourself.

[RaceToTheTop]

7 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Not that KenPom is the end all, be all. But, UConn was 98th in a way weaker concerned (still in the AAC) in Hurley's first season.

DeVries has IU 35th and at least at this point positioned to make the tournament. 

 

and Hurley's team went 16-17 that year.

[Uspshoosier]

3 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Yea, he’s recruited well but wouldn’t have won either title without the transfer and nil rules

His first title was mostly all the guys he recruited.  He did it the old fashion way.  He had some great back to back to back recruiting classes.   Newton was the only transfer on that first team if I’m remembering right 

[AH1971]

Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

and Hurley's team went 16-17 that year.

But, but Tristan Newton wasn’t on the team…

[AH1971]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

His first title was mostly all the guys he recruited.  He did it the old fashion way.  He had some great back to back to back recruiting classes.   Newton was the only transfer on that first team if I’m remembering right 

Calcaterra and Diarra were solid 7th and 8th guys off the bench but yeah…narratives.

[Josh]

5 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Hurley didn’t win a tournament game until the 3rd year of unlimited transfers. 4/5 of his starters during his first title run were organically recruited out of high school. Stop your yapping, you look silly.

Personal insults is such a sunshine pumper thing.  Can't you just have a conversation without belittling somebody else?  It lessens your argument and brand. 

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Josh said:

Personal insults is such a sunshine pumper thing.  Can't you just have a conversation without belittling somebody else?  It lessens your argument and brand. 

Being purposely obtuse deserves to be called out as does arguing in bad faith.

[Home Jersey]

10 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

Regardless of who inherited a worse situation and the realistic turnaround time for the era, there is something about that UConn program that produces serious results, even with several different coaches.  Basically the opposite of IUBB since the late 90’s.

The DDV / Hurley comparison is classic message board fodder, but not really a fruitful discussion because of all the ways the game has rapidly changed in recent years. At the end of the day basketball is basketball though - NIL and transfers notwithstanding.

Your point is the most noteworthy one IMO.  

[Home Jersey]

3 minutes ago, Josh said:

Personal insults is such a sunshine pumper thing.  Can't you just have a conversation without belittling somebody else?  It lessens your argument and brand. 

If this team makes the tournament will you consider yourself a "slow learner" ??????

[Josh]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

Being purposely obtuse deserves to be called out as does arguing in bad faith.

You can't have conversations without personal insults.  Noted.  

[Josh]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

If this team makes the tournament will you consider yourself a "slow learner" ??????

11 seeds don't impress me.  

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

If this team makes the tournament will you consider yourself a "slow learner" ??????

He’ll just move the goal posts and double down on next year lol

[RaceToTheTop]

5 minutes ago, Josh said:

Personal insults is such a sunshine pumper thing.  

I have nothing against you, Josh -- but it would seem to me calling someone a 'sunshine pumper' is a personal insult.

Anyway, y'all can carry on.

[Josh]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

He’ll just move the goal posts and double down on next year lol

Have you been moving the goalposts since Archie was hired?

[Josh]

Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

I have nothing against you, Josh -- but it would seem to me calling someone a 'sunshine pumper' is a personal insult.

Anyway, y'all can carry on.

Haha fair

[Uspshoosier]

Hurley was figuring things out in year 3. He didn’t have the players in the first 2 years or didn’t have the culture but you could see glimpses of it and even with them losing in the first round against New Mexico St you could see that he was on the verge of putting it together.  Just sucks he is a.. because he is a really good coach 

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Josh said:

Have you been moving the goalposts since Archie was hired?

Nope. Doubled down on Woodson though deserving a 4th year and completely owned it. Something tells me you aren’t that guy though.

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Hurley was figuring things out in year 3. He didn’t have the players in the first 2 years or didn’t have the culture but you could see glimpses of it and even with them losing in the first round against New Mexico St you could see that he was on the verge of putting it together.  Just sucks he is a.. because he is a really good coach 

Josh would have fired him twice by then lol

[Uspshoosier]

6 minutes ago, Josh said:

11 seeds don't impress me.  

As of today they are projected around the 9 or 10 range but I get it.  Ius first ever double digit seed came during the Crean years. (10 seed that lost to Wichita State) Before that IU never was a double digit seed in its history of the tourney 

[str8baller]

8 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

A single transfer, who had been with the program multiple years. Wow. How does that explain his lack of success his first 4 years? Tristan Newton the first guy in the history of college basketball to transfer? Don’t hurt yourself.

You should go back to the fire Woody thread and continue your defense of him since you were the last man standing there. Your takes and basketball knowledge are continually some of the poorest on this board. Proven many times over. 
 

 

But for everyone else…Yes, having a first team All American transfer in was a big reason Hurleys team went from decent to championship level. That’s obvious to most, but for you…