IUBB at Kentucky - Saturday, 12.13.25 @ 7:30 on ESPN

[Shooter]

1 hour ago, Old Friend said:

If you have to put words in my mouth or create the argument, you lose.  And you have no idea what you're talking about.   You're picking out a snapshot and creating what I thought so you can argue against it; and being condescending on top of it?    If you want to debate actual history or basketball, I'm in.

Like I said, wave your pom poms and believe a good shooting game against a team that provided zero resistance is good basketball, you should probably stick to NBA all star games.  I said Saturday was awful.  And it was.  We moved the same way against Penn State but their defense was pathetic and yeah...we made shots.  We scored 113 points in 40 minutes.  I don't understand how anyone can watch that and while happy we were on the good side of it, not grasp the "why."   We had the same kids on the floor 4 days later, saw a team that hustled and tried, and looked slow, weak, lazy, and soft.  18 turnovers and allowed 14 offensive rebounds and 13 steals against us.   You're okay with that and think the loss happened because we just didn't shoot well?  Or believe we got the same quality of shots?  Hint : we didn't.  And we didn't move.  Or screen well.  Or get good angles.  Or cut with purpose.  Etc.  Same issues we had with Woodson.  The team Saturday looked no different and UK isn't any good.

This team is not going to finish any better than our last 8.  Our offense is pathetic and we got completely out hustled.  But you're okay with the 1 game in the last 4 with a positive result because we made non-contested shots not based on what we did but because the defense against us was awful?  If you were indeed being serious, you can lose the condescension.  You clearly have no expectations and don't understand the last 25 years.

I'm not putting words in your mouth. Your direct quote was "The brand of basketball against Penn State was awful".

Yes, I believe a performance in which IU took equal amount of 2s and 3s, made over 80% of the 2s, over 50% of the 3s, assisted on over 70% of baskets, forced 11 turnovers vs 9 opponent made baskets in the first half, etc was good basketball. You got me on that one.

I agree we stunk against UK. We have a new coach, we'll see how he adjusts. Enjoy the rest of the season.

[DChoosier]

7 hours ago, Old Friend said:

Condescending comment aside.....There is a very big difference between "modern basketball" and "bad basketball.'  My guess is - especially given your moniker - you don't know the difference between the two and think making shots against a team that doesn't even try defensively is modern.   

I would LOVE to know how little experience you have to have to watch that game last week and then two days ago and decide one game we "played" well and the next scored just half the points against a team which gave up 94 points to both Louisville and Gonzaga.  Indiana scored 60.  It takes an elementary school level of understanding to grasp "why," but when you focus solely on results shooting what amounted to driveway jump shots...you make the argument you just did.   

Modern basketball means "lots of shots that either go in or don't."  That's your argument?    Or maybe, given recent results, a team that doesn't move well, plays at half speed, and is lazy won't succeed unless their opponent is either just as lazy or inferior?   Did you watch Saturday and just say "damn.  If only we could make shots?"   The 18 turnovers didn't matter to you?  How about the 14 offensive rebounds Indiana gave up?  Or the 13 steals they allowed?   

Granted....we shot it like sh*t, but are you really telling me they just didn't drop and "oh well?"  That we pay DeVries what we pay him and everything is predicated on whether or not his team makes bad shots - which means early, or contested?  Like I said, a trained monkey could roll the ball out with that expectation.  How many winning programs can you name that play the way we played Saturday and just chuck it even on a night shots AREN'T dropping like they did against Penn State?  Speaking of YouTube....you will benefit from this series.   Come back and let's chat after you watch the series.  Bring your pom poms.

 

Bothered by a “condescending” comment and then proceed to make 10 of them. That’s on brand..LOL, LOL