Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[OKHOOSIER 2,406]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

I was doing some thinking about the rest of the year last night. 

The more I thought about it, the more I felt like this season really might go completely off the rails. 

Thought my bias may be clouding my ideas, so I looked at the NET Rankings and Woody's winning percentage vs. each Quad. 

My back of the napkin math: as it stands today - we have 13 Q1 games, 3 Q2 games, 4 Q3 games left.

As it stands today there are 6 games that could be Q1/Q2 (Michigan, Purdue, PSU, OSU) or Q2/Q3 (Rutgers, at Washington).

Woody has a 31% winning pct vs Q1, 64% vs Q2, and 89% vs Q3.

As it stands today, that would be good for 10 more wins. That'd put us at 18-13 overall. 

I have a hard time seeing us finishing better than 21-10 absolute best case. 18-13 more likely IMO. 

I said it a while  ago but people were really underselling how important getting a quality win and competent performance in the Bahamas was. The B1G is not well regarded this season. 10-10 with zero good non-con wins isn’t getting us in IMO. Then look at the data you’ve provided… Woody has not over performed at any time in this tenure. TJD was a killer, and JHS periodically went unconscious. So expecting 11 or 12+ B1G wins is living in fantasyland. 
 

You had to have noticed that stretch starting with @ PU on 1/31. That is a brutal stretch of games in February. Squint and tell me how many wins you see there with how this team has looked… PSU at home? UW on the road? OSU at home? That stretch looks like 2-8 to me, maybe 3-7. I think you’re right this could get a lot uglier. 

[Home Jersey 7,755]

3 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

I said it a while  ago but people were really underselling how important getting a quality win and competent performance in the Bahamas was. The B1G is not well regarded this season. 10-10 with zero good non-con wins isn’t getting us in IMO. Then look at the data you’ve provided… Woody has not over performed at any time in this tenure. TJD was a killer, and JHS periodically went unconscious. So expecting 11 or 12+ B1G wins is living in fantasyland. 
 

You had to have noticed that stretch starting with @ PU on 1/31. That is a brutal stretch of games in February. Squint and tell me how many wins you see there with how this team has looked… PSU at home? UW on the road? OSU at home? That stretch looks like 2-8 to me, maybe 3-7. I think you’re right this could get a lot uglier. 

Including Minnesota, I can see us winning only 4-5 conference games total this year. MAYBE 8 if things break right. 

In my personal projections, after hosting USC, I don't see another win I'm confident about until at Washington.

That'd be 12 straight losses. I think we're rapidly approaching the tipping point of becoming pure suck. 

[Chris007 44,115]

10 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

I’m so freaking sick of this joker. We have so many transfers because he refuses to recruit high schoolers to balance out classes, and then he uses the “newness” as an excuse for his team sucking. Dude is such a joke. 
 

He also said that many of our new players came from schools that play mostly zone defense, which is why we were having trouble on D., which is not true. Also said we played good defense against Nebraska. So Delusional

[Stuhoo 81,130]

Generally?

It's not as bad as you think. And it's not as good as you think.

With that guidance, this feels like an 8 to 11 B1G win team.

[OKHOOSIER 2,406]

4 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Including Minnesota, I can see us winning only 4-5 conference games total this year. MAYBE 8 if things break right. 

In my personal projections, after hosting USC, I don't see another win I'm confident about until at Washington.

That'd be 12 straight losses. I think we're rapidly approaching the tipping point of becoming pure suck. 

I was thinking the same thing but almost didn’t want to put it into the ether lol so thanks for falling on that sword. It’s hard just on talent alone to imagine us doing worse than .500 in the B1G, but I have a real hard time envisioning many road wins. My personal guess would be 7 to 10 wins in the B1G, make the BTT, not the NCAA. 

[OKHOOSIER 2,406]

6 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

He also said that many of our new players came from schools that play mostly zone defense, which is why we were having trouble on D., which is not true. Also said we played good defense against Nebraska. So Delusional

It’s almost like our not a college basketball head coach has also not watched any college basketball film. 

[Home Jersey 7,755]

Just now, OKHOOSIER said:

I was thinking the same thing but almost didn’t want to put it into the ether lol so thanks for falling on that sword. It’s hard just on talent alone to imagine us doing worse than .500 in the B1G, but I have a real hard time envisioning many road wins. My personal guess would be 7 to 10 wins in the B1G, make the BTT, not the NCAA. 

My belief in the team / staff was already zero.

That Nebraska game completely murdered any idea things would not be objectively awful overall. 

Maybe a few bright spots along the way... but I tend to agree. Probably squeak into BTT, not the NCAA. 

NCAAs are so far away from being realistic - on December 17 - it's a sin, lol.  

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,881]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I just hope they don’t stop. Only chance in todays landscape. J

 

That's a real issue if the moneybags bankrolling Woody get peed off and significantly reduce their contributions or stop altogether.  Should that happen, we better hope there's other donors who will step up to the plate because Woody is gone.

[OKHOOSIER 2,406]

2 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

That's a real issue if the moneybags bankrolling Woody get peed off and significantly reduce their contributions or stop altogether.  Should that happen, we better hope there's other donors who will step up to the plate because Woody is gone.

Don’t worry, as soon as I win this mega millions you can rest easy, I will keep the money flowing in. Got a lot of eggs in that basket so things are looking up! 

[Golfman25 5,483]

30 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

He also said that many of our new players came from schools that play mostly zone defense, which is why we were having trouble on D., which is not true. Also said we played good defense against Nebraska. So Delusional

He picked these guys.  So adapt and play zone.  :) 

[Hornsby 2,046]

I was doing some thinking about the rest of the year last night. 
The more I thought about it, the more I felt like this season really might go completely off the rails. 
Thought my bias may be clouding my ideas, so I looked at the NET Rankings and Woody's winning percentage vs. each Quad. 
My back of the napkin math: as it stands today - we have 13 Q1 games, 3 Q2 games, 4 Q3 games left.
As it stands today there are 6 games that could be Q1/Q2 (Michigan, Purdue, PSU, OSU) or Q2/Q3 (Rutgers, at Washington).
Woody has a 31% winning pct vs Q1, 64% vs Q2, and 89% vs Q3.
That would be good for 10 more wins. That'd put us at 18-13 overall. 
I have a hard time seeing us finishing better than 21-10 absolute best case. 18-13 or worse more likely IMO. 

That's doing his job.

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[Stuhoo 81,130]

22 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

That's a real issue if the moneybags bankrolling Woody get peed off and significantly reduce their contributions or stop altogether.  Should that happen, we better hope there's other donors who will step up to the plate because Woody is gone.

I don’t think it’s an issue if we get the next hire right in the eyes of our big donors.

When Cig was hired money started rolling in, and that was before we took a snap and for a historically terrible program.

[Pagoda 485]

28 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

That's a real issue if the moneybags bankrolling Woody get peed off and significantly reduce their contributions or stop altogether.  Should that happen, we better hope there's other donors who will step up to the plate because Woody is gone.

Cook and Simon are our two billionaire mega donors.  We can’t afford to lose either of them, especially Cook.  I don’t see anyone who could step in, Cuban has never showed interest in being a big donor.

I don’t think they will stop donating fwiw, especially Cook, they run the Hoosiers Connect collective.

 

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,448]

@DolsonsBurner tweeted 7 hours ago.

 

When it rains, it pours #iubb.

 

He is somewhat like Tyme in that he seems to have some inside scoop.  Not sure what is being referred to.  

[Stuhoo 81,130]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

@DolsonsBurner tweeted 7 hours ago.

 

When it rains, it pours #iubb.

 

He is somewhat like Tyme in that he seems to have some inside scoop.  Not sure what is being referred to.  

Good catch, doc.

I wonder who is injured.

[Home Jersey 7,755]

3 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

@DolsonsBurner tweeted 7 hours ago.

When it rains, it pours #iubb.

He is somewhat like Tyme in that he seems to have some inside scoop.  Not sure what is being referred to.  

That guy is such a tool, lol. 

Loves telling people Indiana's Blue Blood status died when we let the General go. 

Harping on Woody having the 2nd best winning pct since 2000 as rationale for retaining him. 

Basically thinks this is the best we can do. If I didn't know any better, I'd think he's a Purdue troll. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,448]

11 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

That guy is such a tool, lol. 

Loves telling people Indiana's Blue Blood status died when we let the General go. 

Harping on Woody having the 2nd best winning pct since 2000 as rationale for retaining him. 

Basically thinks this is the best we can do. If I didn't know any better, I'd think he's a Purdue troll. 

I don't think its a purdue troll.  I think its similiar to tyme and also connected to Woody in some way to defend him over all else.  

Edited December 17, 2024 by WayneFleekHoosier

[Home Jersey 7,755]

Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I don't think its a purdue troll.  I think its similiar to tyme and also connected to Woody in some why to defend him over all else.  

Yeah you're right, poor phrasing on my part. Just find his mentality sooo frustrating and not logical, lol.

Wonder what he's getting at... suppose we'll find out soon enough

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,448]

10 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Good catch, doc.

I wonder who is injured.

Yeah, that would be my guess as well.  Woody has used his 'new guys getting to know each other' excuse, get ready for the injury excuse coming in hot.  

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,448]

Just now, Home Jersey said:

Yeah you're right, poor phrasing on my part. Just find his mentality sooo frustrating and not logical, lol.

Wonder what he's getting at... suppose we'll find out soon enough

The 2AM tweet is curious