IUFB Offseason Updates

[AH1971 3,436]

14 hours ago, CSP said:

The exercise of worrying about how bad it would be if we lose an All B1G Ten performer isn't for me and not all that relevant. 

Just be thankful to have them

Of course its bad, but when the next guy(s) up are freshman, and in some cases true freshman, stating the obvious that remaining relatively healthy is a huge component in achieving preseason expectations. 

[Lebowski 3,767]

11 hours ago, 8bucks said:

Rewatched the UCLA game tonight and got to wondering if we might be overlooking how good Rourke was last year.  Sure he wasn’t too mobile but he was incredibly accurate with a variety of throws with touch. He made it look so easy

I will be surprised if The Nandolarian doesn't produce. Rourke was hand picked, just like The Nandolarian. Buckle up, we're in for a treat.

Every single starting QB in Coach Cig's system has produced.  

"That’s just a historical fact." -Coach Cig 

Gang, I cannot stress enough just how lucky we are to have a really good football coach and staff. We need to get accustomed to having a solid football team every year. Hopefully this year will quiet all the skeptics. 

[Stuhoo 90,789]

29 minutes ago, Lebowski said:

I will be surprised if The Nandolarian doesn't produce. Rourke was hand picked, just like The Nandolarian. Buckle up, we're in for a treat.

Every single starting QB in Coach Cig's system has produced.  

"That’s just a historical fact." -Coach Cig 

Gang, I cannot stress enough just how lucky we are to have a really good football coach and staff. We need to get accustomed to having a solid football team every year. Hopefully this year will quiet all the skeptics. 

A healthy Mendoza is about as much of a guarantee as a new QB can be, for two reasons:

1. As Lebowski stated, every single starting QB for Cig has been outstanding, and
2. In a lesser P4 system Mendoza has already been really, really good, with his best attribute having been his accuracy. 6'5" guys with a big arm and accuracy are destined for success.

[Lebowski 3,767]

49 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

A healthy Mendoza is about as much of a guarantee as a new QB can be, for two reasons:

1. As Lebowski stated, every single starting QB for Cig has been outstanding, and
2. In a lesser P4 system Mendoza has already been really, really good, with his best attribute having been his accuracy. 6'5" guys with a big arm and accuracy are destined for success.

To be fair, this year is somewhat different because we have a brand new QB coach. However, I do have faith in Coach Cig to make sure that doesn't really change things for the worse. There might be growing pains but I'd be shocked if that were the case. Because both Coach Cig and Coach Shanahan know what they're doing and will absolutely work around what kind of offensive plays work best for The Nandolarian. They have consistently worked around the personal they have to work with. We're probably going to see a lot more QB mobility type play calls. Things like rollout plays, QB draws, etc. etc.

[Lebowski 3,767]

Updates to the position and depth chart. It looks like Quentin Clark has been moved to DL more specifically STUD. @AH1971 I'm with you regarding the LBs. I've added that position to my list. Let's hope Kaiden Turner had an offseason for the ages. 



 

[Pagoda 5,400]

At the end of this clip there is a nice Fernando throw on the run.  

https://x.com/indianafootball/status/1950903095279473035?s=46&t=zoBJGD5TXRBDk1ODyOZqlg

[CSP 12,240]

6 hours ago, AH1971 said:

Of course its bad, but when the next guy(s) up are freshman, and in some cases true freshman, stating the obvious that remaining relatively healthy is a huge component in achieving preseason expectations. 

Its no different than every year, every team, every position group.  Its the default. 

[AH1971 3,436]

14 minutes ago, CSP said:

Its no different than every year, every team, every position group.  Its the default. 

Not many teams expected to win 8-10 games are trotting out true freshmen if their starter goes down. 

[8bucks 7,617]

5 hours ago, Pagoda said:

At the end of this clip there is a nice Fernando throw on the run.  

https://x.com/indianafootball/status/1950903095279473035?s=46&t=zoBJGD5TXRBDk1ODyOZqlg

that was nice, but did you see the 2 picks.  Hopefully little mendoza was in for those.  

[CSP 12,240]

27 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Not many teams expected to win 8-10 games are trotting out true freshmen if their starter goes down. 

Where is this on the depth chart? Not at DT, not at LBer, not at DB. 

And you've studied that many other teams depth charts to know? 

[IndyHoosier1997 220]

55 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Not many teams expected to win 8-10 games are trotting out true freshmen if their starter goes down. 

Yeah how many true freshman are in our two deep? Not really seeing this complaint. 
 

Only one I can think of is Byron Baldwin and that has more to do with Byron Baldwin being very good than us lacking depth. 

[AH1971 3,436]

11 minutes ago, IndyHoosier1997 said:

Yeah how many true freshman are in our two deep? Not really seeing this complaint. 
 

Only one I can think of is Byron Baldwin and that has more to do with Byron Baldwin being very good than us lacking depth. 

We're an injury away at several positions from having freshman play heavy snaps if not outright starting. QB, LB, safety, Interior DL all across the offensive line, etc

[AH1971 3,436]

40 minutes ago, CSP said:

Where is this on the depth chart? Not at DT, not at LBer, not at DB. 

And you've studied that many other teams depth charts to know? 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16pZusTziafkPFkw4q4dwweOtKsWa1t5qlYdi_KQR2rE/edit?gid=0#gid=0

Safety and rover have freshman as backups. Lose Fisher, one of Nelson or the younger Kamara are now in the rotation. DL rotates heavily, lose on of your starters on interior line and now a true freshman joins the rotation. 4/5 backup OL are R-Fr.

Not sure why I have to do your work for you.

[Stuhoo 90,789]

10 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16pZusTziafkPFkw4q4dwweOtKsWa1t5qlYdi_KQR2rE/edit?gid=0#gid=0

Baldwin is the only true freshman I see in that two deep.

Moreover, that thing is dated - Makai Jackson is listed.

Finally, there are tons of places in that thing where a different player is listed in the two deep for each position, but is not the true backup in reality.

• For instance, no matter which OL gets injured, Kahlil Benson will be the next player to take the field, even though he's only listed as the two deep backup for one position. If Coogan got hurt, Lynch would move to center and Benson takes Lynch's spot.
• Same with Isaiah Jones at LB and
• Same with Brady at WR.

[Home Jersey 16,789]

Injuries are bad. Water is wet. 

Hopefully we avoid them... 

Except for the truly elite programs (maybe), no college football team could afford to start their second stringers at key / multiple positions and still expect to win at the same level. We can worry about that when it happens. 

Until then... all I see looking at the depth chart... is the most talented IUFB roster... led by the best coach IUFB has had in my life. 

[CSP 12,240]

7 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16pZusTziafkPFkw4q4dwweOtKsWa1t5qlYdi_KQR2rE/edit?gid=0#gid=0

Safety and rover have freshman as backups. Lose Fisher, one of Nelson or the younger Kamara are now in the rotation. DL rotates heavily, lose on of your starters on interior line and now a true freshman joins the rotation. 4/5 backup OL are R-Fr.

Not sure why I have to do your work for you.

This isn't my work lol 

I told you it was a stupid exercise, you insisted it wasn't. 

This is exactly how 90% of depth charts look. Like you arent actually looking at the TE group and thinking that's a "deep" group because it has 3 SRs. I sincerely hope not. 

There are literally 5 DTs listed that aren't FR... we had a FR rotate on the DL last year.... 

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

Baldwin is the only true freshman I see in that two deep.

Moreover, that thing is dated - Makai Jackson is listed.

Finally, There are tons of places in that thing where a different player is listed in the two deep for each position, but is not the true backup in reality. For instance, no matter which OL gets injured, Kahlil Benson will be the next player to take the field, even though he's only listed as the two deep backup for one position. Same with Isaiah Jones at LB and Brady at WR.

Bingo. 

[CSP 12,240]

1 minute ago, Home Jersey said:

Injuries are bad. Water is wet. 

Hopefully we avoid them... 

Except for the truly elite programs (maybe), no college football team could afford to start their second stringers at key / multiple positions and still expect to win at the same level. We can worry about that when it happens. 

Until then... all I see looking at the depth chart... is the most talented IUFB roster... led by the best coach IUFB has had in my life. 

Saw multiple coordinator lists recently... nearly every top 10 had both our guys on it... what a world we're living in. 

[AH1971 3,436]

6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Baldwin is the only true freshman I see in that two deep.

Moreover, that thing is dated - Makai Jackson is listed.

Finally, there are tons of places in that thing where a different player is listed in the two deep for each position, but is not the true backup in reality.

• For instance, no matter which OL gets injured, Kahlil Benson will be the next player to take the field, even though he's only listed as the two deep backup for one position. If Coogan got hurt, Lynch would move to center and Benson takes Lynch's spot.
• Same with Isaiah Jones at LB and
• Same with Brady at WR.

Baldwin may be the only true freshman in the 2 deep (for now) but there are several R-Fr in the 2 deep who have never played a meaningful snap.

[Stuhoo 90,789]

4 minutes ago, CSP said:

Saw multiple coordinator lists recently... nearly every top 10 had both our guys on it... what a world we're living in. 

IU Football currently:

[Stuhoo 90,789]

8 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Baldwin may be the only true freshman in the 2 deep (for now) but there are several R-Fr in the 2 deep who have never played a meaningful snap.

Yes, now that Tyler Morris (not Makai Jackson) is out injured, we potentially will have a red-shirt freshman as our 6th most used WR. (Sarrat, Cooper, Williams, Jackson, Brady).  7th most used if Charlie Becker gets snaps.

Goodness - if this is the hill you're choosing to gripe and die on, we are in really good shape.