Tom crean

[southernindianahoosier 422]

The advantage we have on offense is spacing the floor, creating opens to drive and score/kick out to open shooters. If Holt and Hanner were in the game with Troy we would lose that because neither are dominant in the post. It would cause more harm than creating an advantage. Throw Hartman in for Williams and it might work a little better but still not ideal.

You don't put both down low on offense. Crean's offense doesn't work like that. Holt would have to play a wing on offense (which I think he could do). Again, I'm looking at it as a defensive strategy when we are playing a dominant big man. That's where we are getting killed... I'm not saying we should use this every game, just games where we play a dominate big man, or when we are using a 2-3 zone and not rebounding well.

[HoosierAloha 30,077]

You don't put both down low on offense. Crean's offense doesn't work like that. Holt would have to play a wing on offense (which I think he could do). Again, I'm looking at it as a defensive strategy when we are playing a dominant big man. That's where we are getting killed... I'm not saying we should use this every game, just games where we play a dominate big man, or when we are using a 2-3 zone and not rebounding well.

 

I get that but I think it would take away too much on offense to be effective.  When we are facing a dominant big we need to identify who we can double with and who the shooters are to take away.  The other end of that is attacking the big man on offense.  We didn't do that in the second half.  He should have been worn down after a few minutes of run. 

[FKfootball 1,046]

I have never seen a basketball team try to screen against a 2-3 zone. Im not saying it doesnt work at times, but its obviously not a popular method.

[HoosierAloha 30,077]

I have never seen a basketball team try to screen against a 2-3 zone. Im not saying it doesnt work at times, but its obviously not a popular method.

 

Watch more basketball.  Screening the top of a zone is pretty common, you can screen a wing when you overload one side.  It CAN be effective when properly utilized.

[FKfootball 1,046]

Watch more basketball. Screening the top of a zone is pretty common, you can screen a wing when you overload one side. It CAN be effective when properly utilized.

I see what your getting at. I figured there were other teams that do that, but I just couldnt remember specifically.

[HoosierAloha 30,077]

I see what your getting at. I figured there were other teams that do that, but I just couldnt remember specifically.

 

I remember seeing it a handful of times just this past weekend. 

[Yogi123 7]

Watch more basketball. Screening the top of a zone is pretty common, you can screen a wing when you overload one side. It CAN be effective when properly utilized.

My thing is why don't we run yogi or zeisloft or jbj off more screens to get them open looks. Too often we just play 4 out 1 in like an NBA team without running a play. The problem is college guys aren't usually skilled enough to make that work. We need to run plays to get our shooters open. Gtown played zone and the top two were playing so high up to stop the three. That shouldn't work. Coach needs to help our guys out so yogi doesn't have to bail us out on his own so often

[ou812dude 3,326]

2 things that I want to point out...

 

#1...Glass did NOT hire Crean...Greenspan did.  Crean was hired on 4/1/2008...Glass was hired on 10/28/2008...

 

#2...there will never be a guarantee of future success with any coach or program...the hope is for a level of in-game competence that leads to a high chance of being competitive from tip to buzzer...and I personally believe that the fan base is frustrated with game management and lack of consistency.

 

I am going to really try to stay away from Tom Crean threads in the future and focus on the team and rooting them on...

 

carry on.

 

edit... I actually meant to post this on the Brad Stevens thread, but I guess it works here...laughing at the irony.

[jonz44 810]

My question is what about the accountability of the players? They make bad passes and make turnovers. I understand that Crean makes mistakes. There are lots of things he does that I don't agree with. But more often than not, the players frustrate me with their dumb mistakes (enter Troy Williams and Robinson). I think a coach can teach strategy and prepare the team they want but in the end the players have to execute and that didn't happen in the final stretch against Georgetown.

Crean recruits them, Crean teaches them...and when they succeed he gets praised! When they fail he gets criticized! Good with the bad!