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[schoosier 3,496]

It's been said ad nauseum on forums that Remy broke some rules that resulted in his departure. Despite that coach and him are still on very good terms. iirc correctly Remy showed up at that clinic they have back in the fall. He's tweeted about his love for IU since leaving. He knows he messed up and he took it like a man and has moved on. 
 
I haven't seen you here before but I think I've seen you on a forum or two where I know it has been discussed. I realize you might not have seen it before but it's old news and it is not something you can blame on coach.

It may be old news nonetheless, we have major issues at backup point and it was Crean who took his scholly and gave to someone else. The rules he broke didn't make the news as far as I know yet were big enough to warrant expulsion? All the while you have kids at most every other program make the papers and only get game suspensions. I'm sure Crean misses him now, although I think he made his decision thinking he woukdnt. Roth and Creek also come to mind when a coach doesn't value what these players do best and thinks the next new shiny oversign will make the difference. Crean also complains daily to media about being so young just like many of our alumni and fans, yet two of the three mentioned above have eligibility.

[Hwy 1 2,053]

Coach sticks to his rules. Is that a bad thing? He followed a guy (I'm not counting Dakich) who let the kids do everything and anything they wanted to. You saw where that got us. I really don't care if other coaches let kids get away with everything. If everyone else jumped off an overpass in front of a semi would you do it too?

[mamasa 15,337]

[quote name="schoosier" post="37285" timestamp="1392240818"]It may be old news nonetheless, we have major issues at backup point and it was Crean who took his scholly and gave to someone else. The rules he broke didn't make the news as far as I know yet were big enough to warrant expulsion? All the while you have kids at most every other program make the papers and only get game suspensions. I'm sure Crean misses him now, although I think he made his decision thinking he woukdnt. Roth and Creek also come to mind when a coach doesn't value what these players do best and thinks the next new shiny oversign will make the difference. Crean also complains daily to media about being so young just like many of our alumni and fans, yet two of the three mentioned above have eligibility.[/quote]

So, by your logic, a murderer isn't responsible for creating their own prison sentence, the judge is? Remy was a distraction. Crean handled it the best he could without damaging Remy's reputation or name. Creek simply could not perform at the level we needed him to, at the time we did.


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[schoosier 3,496]

In my opinion Stan Robinson is, and will continue to be a better option at backup point guard than Remy Abell.

Depends on what you value from a point guard. If slashing to the basket as well as looking to score first is what you value, then Stan is your answer. I think he is excellent at these and be better suited at wing. If you value the point as a facilitator for the offense and play excellent on ball defense, then Remy is much better at both. Those and Remys overall toughness and experience is sorely lacking on this years team.

[schoosier 3,496]

So, by your logic, a murderer isn't responsible for creating their own prison sentence, the judge is? Remy was a distraction. Crean handled it the best he could without damaging Remy's reputation or name. Creek simply could not perform at the level we needed him to, at the time we did.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Lol on the murder comparison but your choice. How was he a distraction for the team, because I don't think it ever went public? How Creek is performing this year would not be acceptable in an IU jersey? All three players in question never put the university in a bad light, graduated or were on pace to, and could all play the game well. It just strikes me that a coach that complains on youth after every loss doesn't value the depth and experience of what he let go . But its convenient to say when your team fails to win.

[schoosier 3,496]

Coach sticks to his rules. Is that a bad thing? He followed a guy (I'm not counting Dakich) who let the kids do everything and anything they wanted to. You saw where that got us. I really don't care if other coaches let kids get away with everything. If everyone else jumped off an overpass in front of a semi would you do it too?

What rule did he break? When athletes break the rules and let go for specific reasons, the universites typically state university policy etc... I believe Crean stated he was just transferring. If this is true than his leaving was not about breaking some rule but more of he didn't fit with what Crean wanted to do this year. How's that working?

[Hwy 1 2,053]

How's this working sc, you came here today to pick a fight. I'm not in the mood. Have fun, maybe someone else will play along.

[All_Hoosiers 873]

[quote name="schoosier" post="37285" timestamp="1392240818"]It may be old news nonetheless, we have major issues at backup point and it was Crean who took his scholly and gave to someone else. The rules he broke didn't make the news as far as I know yet were big enough to warrant expulsion? All the while you have kids at most every other program make the papers and only get game suspensions. I'm sure Crean misses him now, although I think he made his decision thinking he woukdnt. Roth and Creek also come to mind when a coach doesn't value what these players do best and thinks the next new shiny oversign will make the difference. Crean also complains daily to media about being so young just like many of our alumni and fans, yet two of the three mentioned above have eligibility.[/quote] No one misses Remy Abell, at least from what I have seen on twitter and what not. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

[schoosier 3,496]

How's this working sc, you came here today to pick a fight. I'm not in the mood. Have fun, maybe someone else will play along.

I sure didn't, and My views may differ from yours. It doesn't mean I'm starting a fight as others have compared my views to murder and bridge jumping. I think we all are entitled to our own opinions and that being said, yours are no better than mine or anyone elses.

[schoosier 3,496]

No one misses Remy Abell, at least from what I have seen on twitter and what not. Do you watch the games or develop your opinions from twitter? Mine is that we are terribly weak at back up point now and next year, and we would have had a junior with plenty of experience and talent to have solved this. Its so much easier to complain of youth or bright lights or his mindset wasn't right. It avoids those really tough questions like underperforming or 4-6 records in the B1G in year 6?


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[All_Hoosiers 873]

I do watch the games. I also remember watching Remy Abell, and I'm fine without him. Let's not act like he's some awesome player and would fix everything. He has limitations and is better suited outside the Big Ten. He'd be a back up point guard here for a reason.

And yes, I develop my opinions that generalize a fan base from twitter. Any tweets that spoke of missing Remy ended the when Stan Robinson healed up and started playing.


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[JSHoosier 20,315]

No one misses Remy Abell, at least from what I have seen on twitter and what not. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I remember watching Remy, and I don't remember him being as good as he's being made out to be.  He also flat lined for most of the year last season after an a phenomenal (and unmaintainable) start.  I don't miss him.

[schoosier 3,496]

I remember watching Remy, and I don't remember him being as good as he's being made out to be.  He also flat lined for most of the year last season after an a phenomenal (and unmaintainable) start.  I don't miss him.

If easily being our second best point guard infinately better than option 2, then I made him out to be this. He takes much better care of the ball then Stan, had a decent outside shot, and was a much better on ball defender. Stan is a better scorer and penetrator but not comparable to Remy at point. This is me assuming you would consider Stan #2 option this year. If not who is it and apologies on my assumption.

[mamasa 15,337]

[quote name="schoosier" post="37291" timestamp="1392242158"]Lol on the murder comparison but your choice. How was he a distraction for the team, because I don't think it ever went public? How Creek is performing this year would not be acceptable in an IU jersey? All three players in question never put the university in a bad light, graduated or were on pace to, and could all play the game well. It just strikes me that a coach that complains on youth after every loss doesn't value the depth and experience of what he let go . But its convenient to say when your team fails to win.[/quote]

Last thing I'm saying on this. He was a distraction to his teammates due to his lifestyle choices. Just because it wasn't public doesn't mean internal operations are not affected. Creek is playing against different competition, with a different style. I would have loved to see him flourish here, but I don't think it was going to happen.


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