Pagoda Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Home Jersey said: Why don't we have a packed out stadium for every volleyball or field hockey game? The students are not obligated to support any of the sports teams. Football was terrible for decades and had no home crowds. They started winning and now the football culture is much bigger than tailgating then partying and skipping the game. The stadium is full because the program warrants that response. Basketball was great for decades and built an amazing culture. But that culture has eroded over the past 30 or so years and most students have never seen an IUBB program that is for real. So why would they bother going to basketball games if they don't go to volleyball or field hockey? And why should we as alumni find it "inexcusable" for students to not take time out of their weekend to sit in the balcony for a just so-so basketball team? IUBB has to earn back what it has lost. That's on the program, not the students. Yea. And frankly I think the student attendance we get is pretty darn good for a team that has made the tourney two times in 10 years. Those sort of results at almost all other schools would get like half the attendance or less. If we have a good team and student attendance is light… I can definitely understand some criticism. But I think we need to show a pulse on the court before getting too critical. Just my $0.02, if people feel differently I get it. Home Jersey and mike vannice 2 Quote
hper50 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Home Jersey said: Why don't we have a packed out stadium for every volleyball or field hockey game? The students are not obligated to support any of the sports teams. Football was terrible for decades and had no home crowds. They started winning and now the football culture is much bigger than tailgating then partying and skipping the game. The stadium is full because the program warrants that response. Basketball was great for decades and built an amazing culture. But that culture has eroded over the past 30 or so years and most students have never seen an IUBB program that is for real. So why would they bother going to basketball games if they don't go to volleyball or field hockey? And why should we as alumni find it "inexcusable" for students to not take time out of their weekend to sit in the balcony for a just so-so basketball team? IUBB has to earn back what it has lost. That's on the program, not the students. The argument isn't about student attendance, it's about complaining about not playing at home when attendance is poor. And I guess I don't understand the volleyball or field hockey argument. Those games aren't packed because the sports aren't popular, not because the programs aren't succeeding. Soccer and swimming are probably our best two programs year-over-year in recent memory and those aren't packed either. Quote
Hovadipo Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 28 minutes ago, hper50 said: The argument isn't about student attendance, it's about complaining about not playing at home when attendance is poor 9th in the country in raw average attendance and averaging 91% of capacity per game. Seems decent to me. Home Jersey 1 Quote
American HoosierX Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, hper50 said: Then why are we begging to play at home if the students don't want to come because we suck? I don't feel bad for them when they can literally walk to the games. Maybe we wouldn't suck anymore if we actually had a home court advantage. I missed one game I had a ticket to in four years as a student. Completely inexcusable to have a completely empty balcony for Michigan State on a Sunday afternoon. That place was dead, and would've been totally winnable if we had a crowd show up. Edit: I should have read through the rest of responses before I responded. Others made the point better than I did. Quote
hper50 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, Hovadipo said: 9th in the country in raw average attendance and averaging 91% of capacity per game. Seems decent to me. Not being facetious, genuinely asking - do you know if those numbers reflect purchased tickets or tickets scanned at the gate? I feel like even some bigger games haven't had close to 91%, let alone the average across the season Quote
LIHoosier Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago For ages now, those numbers are paid attendance, not arrived attendance. That's for pro and college. Quote
Hovadipo Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, hper50 said: Not being facetious, genuinely asking - do you know if those numbers reflect purchased tickets or tickets scanned at the gate? I feel like even some bigger games haven't had close to 91%, let alone the average across the season I don't. Depends on the numbers the school provided. It may be fudged, but I still don't think our attendance is that bad. I'm less annoyed about playing games in Indy than I am that there are no good non-con games in Bloomington while simultaneously jacking up season ticket prices. Shooter 1 Quote
hper50 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Hovadipo said: I don't. Depends on the numbers the school provided. It may be fudged, but I still don't think our attendance is that bad. I'm less annoyed about playing games in Indy than I am that there are no good non-con games in Bloomington while simultaneously jacking up season ticket prices. Agreed - I'm totally understanding of that Quote
hper50 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, LIHoosier said: For ages now, those numbers are paid attendance, not arrived attendance. That's for pro and college. That's what I assumed - thanks Quote
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