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Yeah, he’s solid at that spot. Agreed. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app

Sums it up. Texas Tech recruiting over him. Indiana fanbase hoping to get him. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app

Lol. Wilkerson fits. Clayton was a very good player under Pitino on a winning team. Martin was a very good player (who I wanted Indiana to get) on a winning FAU team. Those guys were very easily projectable players. Similar to Wilkerson and a few other Mid Majors. Handlogten isn’t special. Reed Bailey is intriguing. He looks solid to me but will struggle defensively. I generally like him. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app

That’s exactly it. Couldn’t figure out staff. Late to identify targets. Missed on top talent primary targets. Now we move to secondary role guys. Gonna have to build a team full of role guys. Maybe KJ can coax some guys into the portal this week. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app

Been trying to tell y’all. It’s rough. Honestly can’t imagine a worse start. However, he’s still got money. He’ll have to overpay mid major guys at this point. Then prove his coaching acumen. He’ll get to play against Conwell at UL and Wilkerson at UK this very season. Gonna have to grit this thing out. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app

1. Who makes the better offer? 2/3. More promises? 2/3. Vibes better with staff/players That’s about where it’s at. Tbh, it’s been that way for a while. 7 days left before portal closes?

That’s why the schools have not-for-profits set up to handle its NIL. Big donors can donate to “charity” and some of it goes to needs and some of it goes to athletes. The donors get tax benefits. It’s much more than a donation. And it’s why it’s semi-sustainable.

Purdue target and ex Indiana target John Camden heading to California. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners

NIL era changes everything. Nothing pre-post NIL is comparable. Even the best teams (besides Purdue) rebuild their rosters every year. Louisville was abysmal and a total laughing stock. Far worse than we have been. They had resources and made a good hire and flipped it within a year. Florida made a good hire and got a young guy who understood the portal was the way. I listened to his interviews when he was hired. He talked portal extensively. He doesn’t have the basketball resources Indiana has but they are solid. He got the right guys and won. Indiana can do all those things. We can Sell everything Louisville can sell. They are probably are best comparison. As far as the the Fan expectations? If we are consistently a top 25 team, that would do it for 98% of the fanbase. “Woodson made tournament 2 years and got ran off” isn’t exactly accurate. I think most people were ok with year 1. Although barely made tournament then got thrashed. Year 2 was a solid year, probably about what the fanbase expects every year. Didn’t meet their own expectations but it was fine. Year 3 began with some optimism and hope for more “modern” basketball. That season rightfully lost the fanbase. Year 4, a chance to reclaim the fanbase was all the same stuff. The fans want a top 25 level team. Dusty did it. Pope did it. Kelsey did it. Now all those guys are killing it and on path to be top 10 programs. This is what the fanbase wants. Not national championships. Just national relevance. It’s attainable as mentioned by these 3 coaches and programs. Optics-DeVries is already off to a rocky start. But it’s how you finish. He does need to have a good/great season. With the ability to pay for a top 10 paid roster, he should be able to have a good season. He just needs to figure it out.

That would be an incredible addition.

Then it’s a Dolson failure. If you have top resources, you get a guy that HAS something to close with. And you use those resources to close and then win. Beard for example would’ve put us back on the map immediately. Maybe even Will Wade. Pay enough to coax someone else with Swagger. Like I say, Woodson basketball was awful and I’m just ready for anything else. So for that, I’m happy. However we didn’t have to blue collar our way back into this thing with our resources. Like I’ve said elsewhere, this is the Cubs approach to things. Fanbase will support regardless, but I’d imagine we’ve got to be closing in on testing that theory with this hire. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app

People were excited about Cupps the same way they are excited about Enright. I tried to have Cupps discussions too but was flamed down. I’ve stated my peace in Enright. I think Bailey and DeVries are defensive liabilities but cool and exciting offensive pieces. I don’t like many of our rumored targets even. It’s just been rough. People aren’t going portaling much now. When does it close? Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners

Yeah, and most people will leave their job for better pay. Not always, but usually. Especially if you like the boss, atmosphere etc. We genuinely thought we were gonna get these guys. That’s where the long hold up was. It seems we ultimately didn’t want to pay them enough to convince them to leave. Self, Calipari and some others are making 8-10 million a year plus staff. We are paying 4-5 for DeVries. There’s a lot of extra money floating around that goes a long way in convincing an assistant to take a job. If we “underpay” on a coach, overpay on the assistants like was said to be the case. It’s honestly been a mess since the coach search started if we are being honest with ourselves. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app

Kelsey Is a similar situation. But, I think he’s corny. But that doesn’t matter. The recruits like him. His swag. He’s got something going for him. Pope? UL, UK , Indiana all supposedly with similar resources. Pope is just a genuine dude. No swag. But he get dudes, pretty easy. They buy what he’s selling. DeVries? Idk. I guess he’s gotta find his lane. He’s not a Pope. He’s not a Kelsey, that’s for sure. He’s a blue collar coach supposedly with white collar resources. It’s kinda a mismatch. I think DeVries only works if he rolls up his sleeves and works and gets guys like him. It might work. But it’s not splashy and it might not work. No pizazz. Making no waves. Idk. I’m trying to talk myself into this. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app

Janitor clearly is guessing. And appears to be wrong. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app