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Devin Davis redshirting a season?

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I think it's safe to assume he won't be back this season. He hasn't practiced since halloween (obviously) and it wouldn't be fair to him to throw him into the B1G gauntlet even if he was deemed "ready" by that time. Redshirting him seems like the most logical step at this point. No need to come out and say it, the most important thing is his health and I'm sure once the season is over, we will have confirmation of a redshirt.

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When does a redshirt need to be announced?

 

It doesn’t. I’m sure there’s some paperwork for the NCAA to document the redshirt season, but no one ever has to announce it to anyone.

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I was pondering something similar the other day: is he better off un-enrolling? I assume you can only be enrolled for so long before you actually have to attend classes. This semester I would assume he will receive incompletes for as I doubt he can attend class while rehabbing. It isn't a big leap to assume that he won't take classes in the spring either so best case is Summer 1. How long can one go before the university considers you inactive? For insurance reasons it makes sense to get a redshirt or hardship exemption, but if the NCAA won't grant the hardship (only speculating), it may make more sense to leave, re-enroll when he is mentally and physically healed, use the redshirt for that first season back in order to regain skills and shake off the rust, and finally return in 2 years. This all assumes he can ever play again obviously. Does anyone know what the university says as far as how long you can be enrolled before you have to attend classes? Do they grant leave of absences akin to FMLA in the workplace?

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I also wonder how this is all working out with his schooling. He has missed half a semester. Just really curious how they are going to work that out. He is lucky that he is an athlete and on scholarship, if he was a regular student he would've been kicked to the curb already. Im in college right now and know of a student who just had a grandparent pass away and had to go to the other side of the country for the funeral and whatnot and was going to miss finals, the school said they would just have to take an incomplete for the whole semester, messed up

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I was pondering something similar the other day: is he better off un-enrolling? I assume you can only be enrolled for so long before you actually have to attend classes. This semester I would assume he will receive incompletes for as I doubt he can attend class while rehabbing. It isn't a big leap to assume that he won't take classes in the spring either so best case is Summer 1. How long can one go before the university considers you inactive? For insurance reasons it makes sense to get a redshirt or hardship exemption, but if the NCAA won't grant the hardship (only speculating), it may make more sense to leave, re-enroll when he is mentally and physically healed, use the redshirt for that first season back in order to regain skills and shake off the rust, and finally return in 2 years. This all assumes he can ever play again obviously. Does anyone know what the university says as far as how long you can be enrolled before you have to attend classes? Do they grant leave of absences akin to FMLA in the workplace?

While on the one hand, I can't imagine how massive and strong a sixth-year DD would be. I don't know if it would be the best for his future to do that long-term plan.

The University has a program that allows you to pause for a year due to medical hardship without reenrolling when you come back, so I'm not worried about that. This semester he should have been able to have a medical withdrawal, full tuition refund despite it being too late, and the classes are either wiped away totally (like an early full withdrawal) or they're marked medical withdrawal I can't remember which. But, if he doesn't take classes in the spring then I'm almost certain he has to get a medical hardship waiver not a redshirt. If I remember the standards correctly he should be able to, the injury has to be incapacitating, before he's played 30% of the season, and he has to be actively engaged in rehab. A redshirt won't be available because he isn't keeping up with the academic requirements of the NCAA at the moment and in order to be redshirted you have to be otherwise eligible. 

 

 

I also wonder how this is all working out with his schooling. He has missed half a semester. Just really curious how they are going to work that out. He is lucky that he is an athlete and on scholarship, if he was a regular student he would've been kicked to the curb already. Im in college right now and know of a student who just had a grandparent pass away and had to go to the other side of the country for the funeral and whatnot and was going to miss finals, the school said they would just have to take an incomplete for the whole semester, messed up

A grandparent dying is a little different than a traumatic brain injury. Do you know any students who weren't allowed to delay their finals with traumatic brain injuries?

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I don't think un-enrolling will happen. He could easily take one cupcake of an online class to stay enrolled next semester. I honestly have no idea how the university deals with life-altering accidents though.

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I was pondering something similar the other day: is he better off un-enrolling? I assume you can only be enrolled for so long before you actually have to attend classes. This semester I would assume he will receive incompletes for as I doubt he can attend class while rehabbing. It isn't a big leap to assume that he won't take classes in the spring either so best case is Summer 1. How long can one go before the university considers you inactive? For insurance reasons it makes sense to get a redshirt or hardship exemption, but if the NCAA won't grant the hardship (only speculating), it may make more sense to leave, re-enroll when he is mentally and physically healed, use the redshirt for that first season back in order to regain skills and shake off the rust, and finally return in 2 years. This all assumes he can ever play again obviously.Does anyone know what the university says as far as how long you can be enrolled before you have to attend classes? Do they grant leave of absences akin to FMLA in the workplace?

my guess is there is an exemption for this scenario for the school

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I was pondering something similar the other day: is he better off un-enrolling? I assume you can only be enrolled for so long before you actually have to attend classes. This semester I would assume he will receive incompletes for as I doubt he can attend class while rehabbing. It isn't a big leap to assume that he won't take classes in the spring either so best case is Summer 1. How long can one go before the university considers you inactive? For insurance reasons it makes sense to get a redshirt or hardship exemption, but if the NCAA won't grant the hardship (only speculating), it may make more sense to leave, re-enroll when he is mentally and physically healed, use the redshirt for that first season back in order to regain skills and shake off the rust, and finally return in 2 years. This all assumes he can ever play again obviously. Does anyone know what the university says as far as how long you can be enrolled before you have to attend classes? Do they grant leave of absences akin to FMLA in the workplace?

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A grandparent dying is a little different than a traumatic brain injury. Do you know any students who weren't allowed to delay their finals with traumatic brain injuries?

I was just honestly curious about how it worked out because I heard about the grandparents dying and how it worked it my school. It was just a question. No reason to be a jerk about it

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I was just honestly curious about how it worked out because I heard about the grandparents dying and how it worked it my school. It was just a question. No reason to be a jerk about it

You didn't ask any question. Look again for question marks. You said "He is lucky that he is an athlete and on scholarship, if he was a regular student he would've been kicked to the curb already". I was reassuring you that a regular student wouldn't be "kicked to the curb" with a traumatic brain injury, nor that DD would get better treatment if his Grandma died right before finals.

Also, didn't I just ask a question? How was I a jerk? Do you know any students that were kicked to the curb with a traumatic brain injury?

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You didn't ask any question. Look again for question marks. You said "He is lucky that he is an athlete and on scholarship, if he was a regular student he would've been kicked to the curb already". I was reassuring you that a regular student wouldn't be "kicked to the curb" with a traumatic brain injury, nor that DD would get better treatment if his Grandma died right before finals.

Also, didn't I just ask a question? How was I a jerk? Do you know any students that were kicked to the curb with a traumatic brain injury?

My post said "I also wonder how this is all working out with his schooling. He has missed half a semester. Just really curious how they are going to work that out."  

 

​May to have question marks but they are questions

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You didn't ask any question. Look again for question marks. You said "He is lucky that he is an athlete and on scholarship, if he was a regular student he would've been kicked to the curb already". I was reassuring you that a regular student wouldn't be "kicked to the curb" with a traumatic brain injury, nor that DD would get better treatment if his Grandma died right before finals.

Also, didn't I just ask a question? How was I a jerk? Do you know any students that were kicked to the curb with a traumatic brain injury?

I was honestly curious about the situation. I wasn't trying to say anything negative. I think we would all be lying if we didn't agree that athletes get more leeway than regular students in school. I've seen it a million times over and I go to a school with mid major athletes so I could only imagine how it is at high D1. Thats nothing negative against the athletes themselves. Its the nature of the beast. But by your explanation it sounds like DD will still just received an Incomplete his classes from this semester. Doesn't count against a student negatively or anything. You just get an incomplete if you withdraw after the the withdrawal period ends. 
I might have misread your last statement, I sensed some heavy sarcasm when I honestly was just curious. Sorry if I misread or misunderstood what you meant. 

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