College Bball Thread

[Magnanimous]

It seems like nearly every successful NCAA football and basketball program between 1988 and 2016 was a colossal mess and corrupt pile of **** led by gutless men.

Basketball - UNLV, UNC, Kentucky, Louisville, Michigan State, Syracuse, UConn, UCLA, Kansas, Michigan, Memphis

Football - Ohio State, Michigan State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida State, Florida, Penn State, Miami, USC, Baylor

This coincides with the (lenghty) period of IU's athletic slump. I realize we have the Sampson blemish on our program's resume, but it was a short incident that was more of a reflection of one coach than the program/athletic department as a whole.  We certainly got our comeuppance and then some on that, and we've been clean since. I also realize our irrelevancy in basketball was more a result of how the coaching searches were run, but maybe it also says something about this school's unwillingness to play the game to be successful in today's college sports landscape. Hopefully these recent incidents finally changes things for the better. 

[mdn82]

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22214566/pattern-denial-inaction-information-suppression-michigan-state-goes-larry-nassar-case-espn
 
 

Is it bad the first thing I thought of was TJD and Brooks?


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[mdn82]

In this environment, they can’t survive a scandal like this. It already took down the school’s president and AD. Izzo and Dantonio won’t be able to recruit and the negative PR with them staying would be extremely damaging to the school’s reputation.

I actually agree with you on this. With the whole #MeToo thing this is bad. These things always get bad when the floodgates open. Izzo pissed off families of the victims in the Nassar case already. I could see this quickly evolve into a Louisville type case when a new President has to come in and clean up this mess.

 

 

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[southsidehoosier]

Is it bad the first thing I thought of was TJD and Brooks?


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So did I


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[Hutch89]

8 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

Is it bad the first thing I thought of was TJD and Brooks?


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Could you elaborate on this?  not sure who Brooks is?

[southsidehoosier]

How quickly do we see statements from Izzo and Dantonio?


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[JSHoosier]

1 hour ago, Tpolock said:

This is breaking on ESPN.  Will this cost Izzo his job?  

BREAKING: A new @E60 and OTL special investigation of the Michigan State athletic department reveals shocking details of a culture of sexual assault inside the men’s basketball and football programs:

https://twitter.com/OTLonESPN/status/956954322289528833

This could, and should, get U-G-L-Y for MSU.  First Nassar, now this.

[HoosierRobbie]

Is it bad the first thing I thought of was TJD and Brooks?


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Guilty


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[JSHoosier]

6 minutes ago, Hutch89 said:

Could you elaborate on this?  not sure who Brooks is?

Keion Brooks, another IU target.

[Hutch89]

Just now, JSHoosier said:

Keion Brooks, another IU target.

gotcha.  But what is the connection between this story and our recruits? 

[JSHoosier]

1 minute ago, Hutch89 said:

gotcha.  But what is the connection between this story and our recruits? 

He could've just meant that MSU being in a world of hurt from this could help us in regards to Davis and Brooks.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

2 minutes ago, Hutch89 said:

gotcha.  But what is the connection between this story and our recruits? 

Both MSU targets

[southsidehoosier]

MSU plays tonight. That press conference is going to be interesting. Saw that the Izzone is going to wear teal for sexual assault awareness. Which to me is ironic.


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[Hutch89]

Just now, southsidehoosier said:

MSU plays tonight. That press conference is going to be interesting. Saw that the Izzone is going to wear teal for sexual assault awareness. Which to me is ironic.


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No better time than now

[JSHoosier]

This on top of what Nassar did and MSU SHOULD be in a world of hurt.

Of course, I always try set my expectations low when it comes to people and yet they still manage to disappoint.

[JSHoosier]

6 minutes ago, southsidehoosier said:

MSU plays tonight. That press conference is going to be interesting. Saw that the Izzone is going to wear teal for sexual assault awareness. Which to me is ironic.


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It is definitely ironic.

[Stuhoo]

It could hurt recruiting, and based on what I just read, could mean the end of D'Antonio there. 

Izzo? Bad news, but no real new revelations. Much more a shinier spotlight on old revelations. He'll muddle through this; maybe with a few bruises.

 

 

[Bailey7878]

Purdue is good but I honestly think a team like Duke or MSU (if they're on) would pummel them.

Maybe but they will still probably blow us out Sunday.

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[Stuhoo]

4 minutes ago, Iugradman said:

A new day is on the horizon. People knew about Spacey and Weinstein for years but they only finally received their comeuppance in the last few months.

 

Maybe so; those are certainly good examples of your point being true. However, there are also examples of famous people who skated, even in this new day. I kinda think Izzo will skate.

 

[mdn82]

It could hurt recruiting, and based on what I just read, could mean the end of D'Antonio there. 

Izzo? Bad news, but no real new revelations. Much more a shinier spotlight on old revelations. He'll muddle through this; maybe with a few bruises.

 

 

Here’s where I think it could be more. His players in the past have been accused and then accusations dismissed quickly. Title IX is coming for MSU. My guess is more things come out. New President and AD will be forced into making moves imo. This won’t be a NCAA thing. It will be an interesting couple of years unless lawsuits start happening against MSU involving the MBB and FB teams which is possible tbh. On top of what most say went down we have what is going on in society. We jumped from Black Lives Matter to MeToo. It is a lynch mob and they had a doctor that will bring many people on campus nobody wants to see.

 

 

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