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Plasticjimmyhat

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I hope that happens. I agree about HMP making the jump ( he needs to if we want to win) and JB2/ Johnson mixing it up out on the wing, we could be dangerous. And Yogi will mature to... We need him to lead the team
Again. This year idk of there will be as much pressure because we will have other scorers. 14-15 season will be interesting...


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Just a little side note. I'm wandering around on the internet and I was looking at 2015 mock drafts. nbadraft.net has Troy going 26th in the first round next year. Found that interesting.


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Just a little side note. I'm wandering around on the internet and I was looking at 2015 mock drafts. nbadraft.net has Troy going 26th in the first round next year. Found that interesting.


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Nbadraft.net is a joke, they had Peter Jurkin going in the second round of 2015 a few years ago. 

 

Draft express is much better. 

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[quote name="Plasticjimmyhat" post="57374" timestamp="1396573049"]Zeller was never aggressive... Hanner is! he just needs to polish his game and play like Marco Kilingsworth... anybody remember him? that's what we lack![/quote]we dont need another Marco lol but I get what your saying

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I think that next season will be the HMP and Yogi show. JBJ and the rest will do well im sure. It will also be a make or break year for CTC. If he wants to keep his job, he will have to show major turn around.

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Having shooters will help (Hoetzel=Hartman), but with what we currently know I just don't see the huge leap people are expecting.  It's like people expect Stan and Troy to make Vic frosh-junior leaps and that's not realistic, do they remember what Vic looked like as a sophomore?

 

What's the excuse for being bad against a zone last year when we had Hulls, Watford, Vic and Zeller?

Victor became a better player in his sophomore year. He hadn't developed his outside shot yet, but he managed to score at the rim similar to the style Williams has shown. Williams was more under control and a better player at the end of the season. I was critical of Troy much of the year, but I can see him in a key role if he gets into the gym and puts in the work on his shot. If Stan and Davis does the same, we will be better than some think.

 

Yogi improved his shot from his freshman year. Others can do the same. We will be a better team when our PG doesn't have to be our main scoring threat. 

 

Getting a year older doesn't make college players better. Hard work makes them better. Just as important, the key to next year is how the incoming players mesh with our current players and what kind of post help we get. 

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Victor became a better player in his sophomore year. He hadn't developed his outside shot yet, but he managed to score at the rim similar to the style Williams has shown. Williams was more under control and a better player at the end of the season. I was critical of Troy much of the year, but I can see him in a key role if he gets into the gym and puts in the work on his shot. If Stan and Davis does the same, we will be better than some think.

 

Yogi improved his shot from his freshman year. Others can do the same. We will be a better team when our PG doesn't have to be our main scoring threat. 

 

Getting a year older doesn't make college players better. Hard work makes them better. Just as important, the key to next year is how the incoming players mesh with our current players and what kind of post help we get. 

Vic was better, I never said he wasn't.  Don't forget that his mid range was still unreliable.  His outside shot was still nonexistent and his handle was still shaky.  It wasn't until he was a junior that his shot was reliable and you could really trust his handle.  Troy is further away from being a "basketball player" than Yogi was so that's not a good example, Troy is 100% athlete.  If Troy works as hard as Vic, and we don't know that he will, we probably shouldn't expect more than a shaky handle and an unreliable shot which is what Vic had as a sophomore.  That's my point, it seems like people are placing too high of expectations on him just like they did when they convinced themselves he was a "basketball player" off of some highlights.

 

He has a lot of potential but there's a difference between an "athlete" and a "basketball player" and Troy is a long way from being the latter.

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I understand what you're saying with the whole athlete/basketball player thing but I really do think he's a basketball player and not just an athlete, and he's definitely more of a basketball player than Vic was at this point. Look at his jump shot, good mechanics (a lot better than Vic had), he just needs more repetitions and actually shoot in games. He took bad shots early on in the year that were out of rhythm and out of the flow of the offense, if you can call it that, but later on at the end of the season he started making them bc it was in rhythm and under control.

I don't even think he has that bad of handles he just tries to force the issue and squeeze by on the baseline or split two guys when it's just not there. He grew up in a family that lives basketball and has been taught fundamentals and the game well. His biggest problem was forcing the issue. Charles Barkley was talking about Blake Griffin his rookie year when he was playing good but was extremely inconsistent. Charles pretty much said he was playing too hard, he needed to learn how to play at 60% for most of the game, and then pick his spots where he really attacks. Seems like this advice would benefit Troy as well.


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we dont need another Marco lol but I get what your saying

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What??? Marco with that big Jared Sullinger ass backing down the lane, and he could shoot the trailing three? I wish we would of had him for more than one year!!

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