Fred Glass Interview (CBI, Mike Woodson, IU Scheduling)

[JSHoosier 20,313]

Not sayin any of you aren't loyal fans. Or you wouldn't be on here. Just sayin we can't scream fire him from one up and down season. I've been a financial supporter of the program since I graduated in the 80's. I was pissed when RMK got fired and I think Davis and Sampson were jokes. They destroyed IU's program. Crean inherited a decimated program and has done a good job getting it turned around. Don't throw him off the ship because we hit a rough current. We are starting to go in the right direction. Starting over again so soon will cause a bigger delay in getting it back to where it used to be. Not to mention we'd be once again paying a lot of money to former coaches. It's very fickle and fair weather to cheer one year and yell fire the next because we underperformed. We lost a lot of good personnel early due to the Lure of the money in the NBA. So did UK the year before and they had a rough year last year. No one was screaming for Calipari to be fired. The bigger picture fix is to let high schoolers enter the NBA developmental leagues directly and get back to committed players using their scholarships and developing programs and enough of the one and done users.


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Actually, yes you did.  They were your exact words as a matter of fact.  "You're not true loyal IU fans."  Look familiar?

 

Calipari keeps getting mentioned and is still an awful comparison.  He was already more successful than Crean before he got the UK job, and the year before they went to the NIT (with their best player injured) they won the championship and went to the Final Four the year before that.  Oh and the Elite 8 the year before that, on top of multiple Elite 8 runs before he ever got to UK.  Simply put he rightfully had more leash than Crean, he had earned more.  People wouldn't be as up in arms over this season if Crean was coming off a FF and title in the previous two years.  

 

Saying this is a bad year doesn't really sum it up.  It's a WTF year of under achieving coming off a year where we under achieved in the tournament from a coach that has never sustained success (in 15 years) and has repeatedly had teams wearing down at the end of the year.  That's on top of the yearly problems we've seen no improvement in like inept half court offense, turnovers, and not utilizing talented bigs.  It's not people losing faith in Crean because of one year, it's people losing faith in him because of accumulation.

 

EDIT:  If Crean isn't a good enough coach to take us to greatness, and there's very little in his history to say he is, it won't happen no matter how long he's here.

[JSHoosier 20,313]

You are off the rocker here.. Say what you want about Crean, Fred Glass has been an incredible asset to IU since he has been there. Indiana needed a "business person" for that role. I would hardly call Fred Glass typical. The dude gets it, and gets it done.


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Yeah, I won't say much about Glass.  That contract extension with a monumental buyout was mind boggling stupidity to put it lightly, but overall he's done a good job.

[CR3AMnCR1MS0N 1,867]

[quote name="BlueDevil2aHoosier" post="49599" timestamp="1395149965"]Completely agree. Conf winners that don't make the tourney should atleast have a bid in the NIT.[/quote]

Personally, I think reg season champs should be the ones in the dance tho


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[Hovadipo 56,480]

[quote name="CR3AMnCR1MS0N" post="49748" timestamp="1395175824"]Personally, I think reg season champs should be the ones in the dance tho


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That would defeat the purpose of the conference tournaments, though. I do agree that the regular season should be the determining factor, but they won't get rid of the tournaments.


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[BlueDevil 8,693]

[quote name="CR3AMnCR1MS0N" post="49748" timestamp="1395175824"]Personally, I think reg season champs should be the ones in the dance tho


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I disagree just because I love the excitement the conference tourneys bring. You could be 0-31 and still have a shot to get in. No right or wrong answer though.

[Dalton26 16,892]

What about a game between the regular season champs vs tourney champs and the winner gets the bid?

I think like you guys do that the regular season champs should get the bid. Since the tourney won't go anywhere why not try it?


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[HoosierAloha 30,068]

[quote name="Hovadipo" post="49752" timestamp="1395176897"]That would defeat the purpose of the conference tournaments, though. I do agree that the regular season should be the determining factor, but they won't get rid of the tournaments.


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I don't think it would defeat the purpose of the conference tournaments. The purpose of the conference tournament is to make more $$$$. They might not make as much though.


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[Hovadipo 56,480]

[quote name="HoosierAloha" post="49755" timestamp="1395177141"]I don't think it would defeat the purpose of the conference tournaments. The purpose of the conference tournament is to make more $$$$. They might not make as much though.


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Yeah the conference tourneys have to be HUGE money makers. But my thing was, if the regular season winner gets the bid, would you really need a conference tournament? I've always just considered conference tourneys a way to get into the dance. And to make ridiculous amounts of money obviously.


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[DrMAK8892 20]

Hard to say you are loyal when you are so dang negative. I get the frustration but come on, to be so negative on a public forum doesn't do the program any good. I agree this was a WTF year when we can upset every ranked B1G team that comes to AH then lose to the likes of PS, PU, and NW. But you can't just throw your hands up and forget the positive. All I can say is I'm glad you aren't in a decision making position at IU, we'd be spending so much money on ex coaches that we wouldn't be in any position to pay someone good enough to stay. Unless you have what it takes to do better, STFU. Be constructive in your criticism not destructive. Air some legit solutions instead of just bitching. You give the fan base a bad name. the athletes read this and it affects them. If you don't think so you are wrong. I have an athlete close to me and they hate this divisive chatter. It brings them down. They are impressionable young men. Be careful what you say.


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[BlueDevil 8,693]

[quote name="dalton26" post="49754" timestamp="1395177131"]What about a game between the regular season champs vs tourney champs and the winner gets the bid? I think like you guys do that the regular season champs should get the bid. Since the tourney won't go anywhere why not try it? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app[/quote] That's another argument I have brought up not in this community. Most of these smaller schools play their tourneys earlier which could allow for the playoff game before selection Sunday.

[JSHoosier 20,313]

First you say we're not loyal fans, then you say you weren't saying that, and now again you're saying we're not loyal.  Which falls back on one simple thing, you know nothing about me other than a handle on a message board.  A message board which happens to be for discussion, which is exactly what we're doing.  The ironic thing is you're really just complaining about people complaining.

 

Look back through my posting history and you'll see I've said positive things about Crean and the team.  It's also hard to be roses and rainbows when a team with 2 McDonald's All Americans and a senior that scored over 1000 points can't even get a bid to the NIT.  We complain because we care, because we want the team to do well.  Some people want it to be nothing but positive, but I say at least we still care even if we show it in a different way.  Apathy is worse.

 

There are things Crean does well, and this team has talent.  That doesn't mean I'm not going to talk about the problems that plagued the team all year, and that doesn't mean I'm not a loyal fan.  There was individual improvement over the course of the year, Troy and Stan as two examples, but there wasn't team improvement.  Does that mean I want Crean fired this instant?  No.  

 

Questioning someone's loyalty just because you don't like the way they post on a message board doesn't fly with me though.

[Dalton26 16,892]

Lmao. Not even going to waste my time with that garbage.


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[BlueDevil 8,693]

If the player bashing brings them down then fine I hate it too and I can understand but if they are upset about what's being said about the team then play better. Work harder. You don't come to IU to miss the tournament. Use it as motivation and get in the gym. And don't tell me to STFU.

[LIHoosier 26,359]

That would defeat the purpose of the conference tournaments, though. I do agree that the regular season should be the determining factor, but they won't get rid of the tournaments.


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I disagree just because I love the excitement the conference tourneys bring. You could be 0-31 and still have a shot to get in. No right or wrong answer though.

I would split the middle of these ideas and only have the top 8 schools in the conference eligible for the tournament; to make the regular season have a little merit and to get rid of these terrible tournaments with single, double, and triple byes. It won't matter too much in 8-9 team conferences, but for those that have ballooned in size (ahem, B1G), they'd better bring it every game.

[Hovadipo 56,480]

[quote name="LIHoosier" post="49771" timestamp="1395181243"]I would split the middle of these ideas and only have the top 8 schools in the conference eligible for the tournament; to make the regular season have a little merit and to get rid of these terrible tournaments with single, double, and triple byes. It won't matter too much in 8-9 team conferences, but for those that have ballooned in size (ahem, B1G), they'd better bring it every game.[/quote]

A few conferences do that. I know that LIU Brooklyn missed their conference tournament this year. I don't mind the idea at all.


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[BlueDevil 8,693]

[quote name="LIHoosier" post="49771" timestamp="1395181243"]I would split the middle of these ideas and only have the top 8 schools in the conference eligible for the tournament; to make the regular season have a little merit and to get rid of these terrible tournaments with single, double, and triple byes. It won't matter too much in 8-9 team conferences, but for those that have ballooned in size (ahem, B1G), they'd better bring it every game.[/quote]

This is a pretty good idea as well.

[DrMAK8892 20]

Fair enough. I just don't like the "fire him" mentality. I must've misunderstood your ranting to be just that. Agree completely with the fact that with 2 MAAs and a thoroughbred senior we should expect more. Can't blame it all on the coach. In my opinion we should've declined NIT invite if given one. Just getting tired of everyone jumping on the firing bandwagon in social media when they don't think thru what that kind of chatter can do to a teenagers mindset. I'm signing off this discussion as frustrated as you are, but trying to be careful what gets aired


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[bronkonagurski 894]

Overall I think Fred has been doing a great job at as the AD at Indiana and is easily the best AD for IU that I can recall since I started following the team in the mid-to-late 80's.  Doesn't mean he is above criticism for certain things but he has been a tremendous asset to my alma mater and I really do appreciate it.  In fact, what is his e-mail address anyways?  I want to send him an e-mail. 

[BlueDevil 8,693]

[quote name="DrMAK8892" post="49782" timestamp="1395181673"]Fair enough. I just don't like the "fire him" mentality. I must've misunderstood your ranting to be just that. Agree completely with the fact that with 2 MAAs and a thoroughbred senior we should expect more. Can't blame it all on the coach. In my opinion we should've declined NIT invite if given one. Just getting tired of everyone jumping on the firing bandwagon in social media when they don't think thru what that kind of chatter can do to a teenagers mindset. I'm signing off this discussion as frustrated as you are, but trying to be careful what gets aired


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Take it easy brother

[KelleyHoosh 2,263]

Overall I think Fred has been doing a great job at as the AD at Indiana and is easily the best AD for IU that I can recall since I started following the team in the mid-to-late 80's.  Doesn't mean he is above criticism for certain things but he has been a tremendous asset to my alma mater and I really do appreciate it.  In fact, what is his e-mail address anyways?  I want to send him an e-mail. 

His email:  iuad@indiana.edu

Found it at http://www.iuhoosiers.com/staffdir/indiana-staff-directory.html