Discussion: Where do you think IU ranks with NIL in 2025?

[Kentuckysucks 4,383]

25 minutes ago, str8baller said:

That’s going overboard. B1G has done well so far and our overall SoS will be fine. We’re not in a hole metrics wise like we were last year. Last year at 19 wins we were one of the first teams out with Deevries WVU, oddly enough. At 19 wins this year we are “probably “ in. That just means holding serve at home. 
 

The good news is we only play UM and Illinois once and both on the road. Along with MSU, those are the 3 teams that seem like they can absolutely swarm us athletically.  Out of those 3 we only have MSU at home, and holding serve at home gets us 10 wins. But we don’t have to do that because we can pick up other games. 
 

No reason we can’t split with our in state rival. No reason we can’t pick up another game on the road to make up for dropping the ball at Minny. @ Maryland, @Rutgers, @ ohio st, and the west coast swing are all viable options to pick up a road win.  

To bring it back to NIL: we still have talent on this team. Everyone is new and having some ups and downs is to be expected. Also, people wanted a 3 point heavy shooting team. That also comes with variance. We’ll drop a couple bad ones but take one or  two where we shoot lights out.  
 

Even is we lose to UK, 11-9 in conference gets us in the tourney. Every above .500 team in conference last year got in. We also have a chance to win a couple games in the BTT. 

 

We need to have some good wins.  We already have one bad loss.  What other opportunities do we have for really good wins?

And if you remember there was a year Nebraska went 13-7 I believe and still got left out as they didn't have many quality wins.

[str8baller 8,355]

24 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

We need to have some good wins.  We already have one bad loss.  What other opportunities do we have for really good wins?

And if you remember there was a year Nebraska went 13-7 I believe and still got left out as they didn't have many quality wins.

It’s not college football where you have to have a top 10 marquee win. UPS or somebody can step in and explain it better but it’s all Q1 Ws and Ls plus Q2. If we just take care of business we’ll have decent enough Q1 and Q2 record, plus our NET metrics should stay fairly sound.  For example we lost by less to a better Lville team than Woodys team last year. Sad that we have to make that comparison but those little things matter. 
 

And as mediocre as that team was we picked up wins over ranked MSU and ranked Purdue. And that team had a 1-7 stretch in conference but still was in a position to possibly make the tourney.  
 

It’ll sort itself out over the next 20 games. 

[newcastle12 399]

23 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

My thoughts are: 

--- I don’t believe it was ever a "fairly certain conclusion" that Indiana was spending top 7 or likely higher NIL money. Definitely not in this past cycle where this roster was formed. Not sure what led you to believe that?

 

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/the-10-million-club-college-basketballs-portal-recruiting-hits-unthinkable-levels-of-financial-chaos/

Articles like this for one. Other places (like Peegs, take that for what you will) also lead people to believe this.

[str8baller 8,355]

11 minutes ago, newcastle12 said:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/the-10-million-club-college-basketballs-portal-recruiting-hits-unthinkable-levels-of-financial-chaos/

Articles like this for one. Other places (like Peegs, take that for what you will) also lead people to believe this.

A key thing to take from that is that there is estimated another 20 schools in the 7-9mil range. So that’s 30 schools within a couple mil of each other. From there it’s all about evaluation and more importantly returning stars. Guys like Braden Smith are making a little less than if a school like UK or IU would’ve paid them in the open market. Having key returning players is probably worth a mil or so. So right there you have a top 30. That doesn’t even get into schools like Wisconsin that are miracle workers on a budget. 

[newcastle12 399]

I didn't mean this to be overly negative.  I don't hate the players on this roster, I think a lot of them are good, just not very athletic.  I know we are spending good money on the coaching staff, which is important.  

I'm just shocked at some of the teams spending more money that us, and I agree with most, it really seems like we are spending in the 10-20 range this year, and probably in the back half of that honestly.  

 

[WayneFleekHoosier 52,376]

14 minutes ago, newcastle12 said:

I didn't mean this to be overly negative.  I don't hate the players on this roster, I think a lot of them are good, just not very athletic.  I know we are spending good money on the coaching staff, which is important.  

I'm just shocked at some of the teams spending more money that us, and I agree with most, it really seems like we are spending in the 10-20 range this year, and probably in the back half of that honestly.  

 

Me all off season being told how negative I was.  I mean I guess I was, but that’s because we were building a bubble team at best.  Many chose to ignore it.  I mean, I guess that’s best, why fret about something you can’t change.  I wish I was DOB, let me build a roster.  

[str8baller 8,355]

14 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I mean I guess I was, but that’s because we were building a bubble team at best.

If they’re squarely in the tournament are you going to admit you were wrong? 

[WayneFleekHoosier 52,376]

If they’re squarely in the tournament are you going to admit you were wrong? 

Define squarely. 8 seed or better? Yes, I will.


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[str8baller 8,355]

15 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Define squarely. 8 seed or better? Yes, I will.


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Typically 12 seeds are playin games/bubble teams for major confs. 
 

An 8 seed would put Devries ahead of Calipari and Kelsey last year. Hardly anything to get up in arms about. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 52,376]

Typically 12 seeds are playin games/bubble teams for major confs. 
 
An 8 seed would put Devries ahead of Calipari and Kelsey last year. Hardly anything to get up in arms about. 

Yea, 8 or 9 seed makes it not a bubble team. 10 and lower is a bubble team to me. Like I said earlier I’m hoping for the best, expecting the worst. I’ll admit to being wrong if we are a single digit seed.


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[str8baller 8,355]

5 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Yea, 8 or 9 seed makes it not a bubble team. 10 and lower is a bubble team to me. Like I said earlier I’m hoping for the best, expecting the worst. I’ll admit to being wrong if we are a single digit seed.


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I mean…I don’t really care, nor am I trying to call you out or anything. I don’t follow recruiting and have no predictions—only expectations. Getting to the tourney is a “meet expectations” for me based on what other coaches in his position have done. But I will say if we’re a play-in type bubble team à la 2/4 of Woodys years it’s more of a “barely passes” by the slimmest of margins.  Just my opinion based on NIL and the current landscape of college ball. 

[newcastle12 399]

I will say that Dorn looks like a real guy athletically like you'd see on one of these big expensive rosters.   Good find for 600ish I think.  

[J34 1,854]

11 hours ago, newcastle12 said:

I will say that Dorn looks like a real guy athletically like you'd see on one of these big expensive rosters.   Good find for 600ish I think.  

You can definitely see it, the healthier he gets.