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KingPG21

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Play Cope. He isn't a scrub, but Vogel hates him for some reason. At least he poses a threat somewhere other than the rim.


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He killed his cat or something. Let me check my sources

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Play Cope. He isn't a scrub, but Vogel hates him for some reason. At least he poses a threat somewhere other than the rim.


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Vogel won't do it, even if it costs him his job. 

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[quote name="TheWatShot" post="62322" timestamp="1398389008"]Vogel won't do it, even if it costs him his job. [/quote]

It might save it.


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The Hawks shoot so many 3's, all they have to do is shoot better than 30% and they hit 10 or more of them. The Pacers….well, aren't a very good three point shooting team. Tough to overcome that difference. 

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I will be happy if Roy doesn't play another second this post-season. No one can objectively say he has earned minutes, and it is blatantly obvious we are playing so much better without him

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I'm just gonna throw this out there. There was definitely a pretty hostile exchange between Lance and Vogel at the end of the game. My take is Lance is getting pissed at other guys on the team for not competing at the same level he is right now, whether he is right or not is up for debate. The locker room is going to be really ugly, I have no doubt in my mind at this point with everything else coming out. If the postseason continues to play out like it is this team is probably going to look drastically different next season

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[quote name="KingPG21" post="62331" timestamp="1398390231"]I'm just gonna throw this out there. There was definitely a pretty hostile exchange between Lance and Vogel at the end of the game. My take is Lance is getting pissed at other guys on the team for not competing at the same level he is right now, whether he is right or not is up for debate. The locker room is going to be really ugly, I have no doubt in my mind at this point with everything else coming out. If the postseason continues to play out like it is this team is probably going to look drastically different next season[/quote]

Looking like it comes down to choosing between Lance and Vogel for Bird.


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I'm just gonna throw this out there. There was definitely a pretty hostile exchange between Lance and Vogel at the end of the game. My take is Lance is getting pissed at other guys on the team for not competing at the same level he is right now, whether he is right or not is up for debate. The locker room is going to be really ugly, I have no doubt in my mind at this point with everything else coming out. If the postseason continues to play out like it is this team is probably going to look drastically different next season

I love Lances game, but he is a locker room cancer. Starting fights with players all the time, yelling at coaches... At this point I don't know if Bird will want him back. Now I'm not blaming this teams fallout completely on him, Hibbert is worthless, Hill is worse than worthless, and our offense is a f**king joke. This team will be gutted if possible. 

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I love Lances game, but he is a locker room cancer. Starting fights with players all the time, yelling at coaches... At this point I don't know if Bird will want him back. Now I'm not blaming this teams fallout completely on him, Hibbert is worthless, Hill is worse than worthless, and our offense is a f**king joke. This team will be gutted if possible. 

 

 

Looking like it comes down to choosing between Lance and Vogel for Bird.


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I'd actually expect Lance to win out in Bird's mind just because of how competitive Lance is, and that was Bird's thing

 

The other guys who have major input I don't know. But yeah I'm expecting Hibbert or Hill to be gone this off-season if not both. Just watch Bird when Hibbert is on the court, he is really not happy

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[quote name="IUfan_Charlie" post="62334" timestamp="1398390922"]or neither... I'd like to make a run at Luol Deng this summer. PG and Deng together would be scary. [/quote]

Except Deng is old and is bound to start breaking down. I'd rather spend that money on Lowry. I'm over Hill. Deng will try to be expensive.


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[quote name="KingPG21" post="62335" timestamp="1398391037"]I'd actually expect Lance to win out in Bird's mind just because of how competitive Lance is, and that was Bird's thing

The other guys who have major input I don't know. But yeah I'm expecting Hibbert or Hill to be gone this off-season if not both. Just watch Bird when Hibbert is on the court, he is really not happy[/quote]

I would choose Lance too. I'm just a huge Lance fan. He comes off as all about himself, but he has a fire to win like Bird like you said. I love that. I just really wish we had a draft pick this year.


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Except Deng is old and is bound to start breaking down. I'd rather spend that money on Lowry. I'm over Hill. Deng will try to be expensive.


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Deng is only 29, give him a 3-4 year deal. Don't think we can get Lowry. 

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I would choose Lance too. I'm just a huge Lance fan. He comes off as all about himself, but he has a fire to win like Bird like you said. I love that. I just really wish we had a draft pick this year.


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I personally would choose Lance as well, and for the same exact reasons. Dude is about as competitive as it comes now a days and doesn't give a crap what others think. I love Vogel too, but man his stubbornness is bothering me right now, reminds me of JOB

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