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Flagrant foul?

What happened? And did he lose a tooth? It looks painful. Sucks for Geronimo.

He's basing that on the unfounded premise that Woodson is a grown man, not the man-sized child he actually is.

Completely agree. He's way up there for me. 2nd on my list to Stevens, who I don't think we'll get. In addition to his winning percentage, he's also won tournaments and lower level championships. The guy just wins. If IU is serious, they should be looking at $7M+ to pull a great coach away from a school they may love. Not offer Stevens $10M then settle for someone for $3-4M. Examples: Double the salary of someone you really want like McCasland or Otzelberger. Offer Oats that $10M. Edit: McCasland is making only $2.9M this year. I bet he'd go to IU for $6-7M.

This is what a few of us have been saying for a while now. IU is willing to pay its coaches (both Miller and Woodson had top 10 salaries at one point in their time at IU) along with being in the B1G (easier to get to the tournament), profit sharing, and NIL would make the job desirable. Even with the poor results the last 8 years, IU has landed talent. The fan expectations are way down so that negative is overblown. As Miller and Woodson have shown, coaches get at least 4 years.

Excellent point. When you remove the Knight connection, Beard doesn't look nearly as attractive. I've never understood the amount of love that Beard gets. Good coach but not a home run as some think.

I was more arguing with the "by far" part. Miller's year 4 is a contender with much of the same talent that Woodson had in year 1. This is what we've become. Debating which of the last 8 years was the worst and quibbling over if one was "by far" the worst. smh Dolson needs to not **** up this hire.

By far the worst of the last 8? Miller's final season they had a losing record. Man, we really need a competent coach after these last two total duds.

What probably happened is that the poster forgot where he saw it and who said it then attributed it to the wrong person.

What are you going on about?

That's your opinion which you're entitled to have. I wasn't trying to persuade you one way or another, just pointing out that what you were saying about his buyout was incorrect.

Read the Doyel article. He was forced out.

There are 2 buyouts: 1) The school fires him. That is 70% of the remaining contract which puts this buyout at about $11M currently. This money goes to the coach. 2) May decides to leave, i.e. he gets another job somewhere else like, say, IU. This is at $5M and will soon drop to $4M. This money goes to the school. So you're original post that I replied to which stated they kept it at $5M to make it cheap to fire him is incorrect.

Then why didn't his IU teams play with hustle?

Miller would've wasted the money on low talent players. He wasn't a very good evaluator of talent.

I'm removing Self from the list.

That ship has sailed.

What were they saying?

Different buyout. The buyout to fire him is 70% of his remaining contract, so around $11M now.

One name I'm happy to see isn't being thrown around is Shrewsberry.

I already stated before that I wouldn't change my mind but I'll elaborate. I feel very strongly about domestic violence. \When I was a young, my mom's second husband was abusive. He was physically violent against my mom and younger brother and mentally/emotionally abusive to all of us. She wasn't with him too long before we left but it left a lasting impact. I remember. I remember the fear. I remember the fear my mom had even, especially, when she decided to take us and leave since that is one of the most dangerous times in an abusive relationship. He was such a POS that my sister, his daughter, didn't bother trying to get his paid off house and other belongings when he died without a will because she wanted nothing to do with him. A lot of people view this as just a one-off "accident" or something. Domestic violence tends to escalate over time. So the thought that the first time this particular guy laid hands on a women was in his late-40s and resulted in the cops being called because of how very violent it was is laughable to me. It wasn't a single slap or punch. It was biting and strangling. She called the cops because she literally feared for her life. People can fool themselves into thinking this was an isolated incident. I won't because the chance that it is is astronomically low. I won't change my mind. If he is hired, I won't be a fan of IU basketball while he's the coach, possibly never again. Miller and now Woodson have made it easier than ever to walk away if it comes to that. That said, I think the chance that IU actually hires Beard is pretty much 0%.

It works. archive.is/www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2025/02/07/indiana-basketball-asked-mike-woodson-to-resign-then-told-him-its-over-iu-step-down-retirement-fired/78344378007/# It's worth a read. It basically says what we've been saying on this board. A real Woodson takedown.

Copy that whole link then change 'https:/' into 'archive.is'

Did you stop reading after the first line? It looks like Jaybob was actually on your side. The first line looks like a quote or paraphrase of what a mod said to you on HSN.

If they're anything like the women's shelters around here, he probably wouldn't be allowed to volunteer there. I volunteered at a shelter for women escaping domestic violence and to be allowed to do so one has to get a fingerprint clearance card, which checks the person's criminal record for disqualifying arrests and charges. In this case, violent offenses. Even though he wasn't prosecuted, he was arrested.