Bigred3588

Smith can be downright painful to watch

As long as it means more layups and less jump shots, I approve

3 minutes in and I already want to smack Dakich.

Cook is still at Iowa? Isn't that the guy Sheehey dunked on like 7 years ago?

I lucked out. I figured there was no way my GFs god awful cable service included ESPNEWS. Thankfully I was wrong.

I love missing the first 10 minutes of IU games because ESPN thinks it's a good idea to showcase games that have the appeal of a Purdue frat party.

I'd lay money that people are going to have some complaints about this recruitment when AAU picks up and the offers come rolling in. I'm from Indianapolis and graduated HS in 2006, so I've seen and played against some guys that are NBA veterans right now. I'm not saying he's at that level (Conley still gives me nightmares lol), but he's doing things that those guys weren't at that age and some of it can't be taught.

I was at IU for Hulls' last couple years in HS and his first 3 years in college; so I was able to see him live quite a bit at both levels. Outside of the shooting, I don't see much comparison between the two. Brown's passing game is already on a different level, and he'll only get better because a lot of it is still just natural ability. Imagine what he'll do when he's surrounded by talent and knows where they'll be before they get there. As far as the shooting, Hulls was probably more efficient when I saw him as an upperclassman at South but Brown is definitely the better scorer. To be fair, Hulls was arguably the second best 3 point shooter on that team and also had a lot of talent around him. I believe the one kid (Dee Davis?) went to Xavier and one went to Butler. The other kid that was a hell of a shooter went to a small D1 or D2 school. However, I still don't think Hulls had the ability to put up the kind of numbers that Brown manages. Their defensive abilities aren't even close, IMO. Brown isn't an elite athlete but his lateral quickness is good enough to stay in front of most guards. He definitely needs to put on some muscle but he'll be a capable defender. Hulls simply wasn't. I'll put it this way: I played PG but was basically a SG stuck in a PG's body. If you asked me whether I'd prefer to go up against an 18 year old hulls or a 16 year old Brown, it would've been Hulls 10 times out of 10.

I don't think I've done it yet, so now is as good a time as any for me to eat crow on this recruitment. I wasn't overly impressed with what i'd seen from Armaan at the time of his commitment and felt like Purdue had gotten the better player in Newman. Obviously, his play this season has completely changed my mind. His numbers on the offensive end of the floor are much improved and lead me to believe he's the kind of guy that is willing to put in the work necessary to really elevate his game. But, more importantly (in my eyes), he seems to stuff the stat sheet. Nothing eye popping, but enough to show that he impacts the game in a variety of ways. If what i'm saying is accurate, i'm thrilled to have him and think he's the kind of guy we need to establish the culture required for Archie's system to thrive.

Unbelievable

The 48 inch vertical finally paid off!

JESUS CHRIST

This team just refuses to make anything easy

*Facepalm*

There’s no way Miller drew up that shot from a bad 3 point shooter

...wow

Not a good decision but that looked like a lot of ball to me

It actually makes more sense than one would think. Beating the pack line requires players that can make contested jump shots (usually threes), or an offense based on screening and ball movement. Patience and proper execution puts pressure on the offense which often forces turnovers, and contested threes mean long rebounds. Both are opportunities for transition offense. It’s certainly not the most proactive approach but what we’re seeing is far from how the final product is supposed to look. I’m looking forward to seeing it work as intended, especially after watching our players jump passing lanes and give up position for 9 years.

That’s a big part of it. The pack line doesn’t leave much room for error so players have to know it well enough to react naturally. Most of them didn’t play anything much more complicated than a zone or man-to-man until they got to IU and have to think about what they’re supposed to be doing. When you play a team like Michigan that moves the ball well you can’t afford to have that delay. The other major factor is chemistry. You have to play as a unit and we haven’t had any kind of consistency in our lineups.

Yup, but I wouldn't waste too much time trying to convince other posters of this. I've written quite a few posts in this thread trying to explain these things but they feel it can be done overnight. Personally, I can only recall seeing one coach pull that off (Calipari), but apparently it's the norm. Either way, it doesn't really matter because they aren't going to get what they want. Miller would've explained that it's a system that takes time to implement, so I don't see Miller being at risk for at least 3 or 4 more years. And if he wanted to clean house but was unable due to APR as has been stated on this board, that buys him even more leeway. As far as Morgan is concerned, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. When I watch his body language on the court and during press conferences, I just don't see a leader. And even if i'm wrong and i'm just not noticing it, the players aren't responding which is a respect issue. That's even worse than lack of a leader; especially in our system. I'm not overly concerned with the shooting woes. Ed Shilling has a well established background as a developer of talent and it will obviously be a point of emphasis in the off season. I'll be pretty surprised if we don't see much better shooting next season.

Good lord. We have an in-state player with excellent court vision that's averaging more PPG than there are minutes in the game, and he has stated on record that IU is his dream school. And we have fans that don't think he would even be deserving of our 13th scholarship while simultaneously complaining about our lack of shooters.

Same here. He definitely never achieved his full potential. Last time I saw him was over by Eigenmann around 2013 and he was the size of a linebacker. He had a girlfriend in Bloomington that got pregnant and was still around town a lot at that point.

Lol I think that’s a fair compromise. AJ Ratliff used to get absolutely trashed on nights before games. It was very well known around campus and the couple times I saw it I honestly couldn’t believe he was standing the next day, let alone playing.

Hey, at least they were smarter than the Sampson players. Some of those idiots would’ve bought off a cop in uniform if the cop gave em a good enough story. I never asked the players but I was always convinced they had the testing rigged some way or another. You can partake occasionally and be clean in a day or two but there were a couple that definitely wouldn’t have been able to pass.

Nothing has changed. I was at IU from 2006-2011 and let’s just say my income came from “party favors.” I was tight with one of the team managers and people would be shocked by some of the names. Edit: Don’t bother asking or sending a PM; I’m not going to say who they were. But, if it makes you feel better, we shouldn’t have to worry about players getting caught up in a transaction. Everything goes through the manager.